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US oil and gas production the most ever by any country

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by oragator1, Mar 26, 2024.

  1. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    Yes I can see how doing anything we want in the short term while ignoring the long term ramifications benefits us immediately, its the American way. Now let me smoke this refreshing cigarette and hope my medical bills stay low forever.
     
  2. exiledgator

    exiledgator Gruntled

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    Or, if we're making wild analogies, we could just force all opiod addicts to quit cold turkey and ignore the long term effectiveness of that v treatment, and also have many of them lose their lives in the short term
     
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  3. citygator

    citygator VIP Member

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    I disagree. It’s about consumption not production.
     
  4. oragator1

    oragator1 Hurricane Hunter Premium Member

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    Yeah, since 2019 the world’s population has gone up 3.6 percent and oil use has gone up 1.6 percent, and that is with the 3rd world becoming more prosperous over time and having increased energy use. So the shift has already started, but it’s gonna take decades. Most on this board who support clean energy can afford and would likely happily pay and extra dollar a gallon if it meant speeding towards a cleaner world. But the vast majority of the planet can’t eat that cost, and fuel supply is a global ecosystem not a local or national one.
     
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  5. citygator

    citygator VIP Member

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    For sure. We are 20% of the usage and our consumption is plummeting. Like cell phones skipped generations, a lot of the 3rd world will jump into a more efficient energy model than the US much earlier in the cycle.
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  6. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    I dont know much about treating addiction, but I dont think the first step to getting them clean is to up their opiod intake in the short term. You can talk me into "gradually weeing off" but you are blowing smoke up my ass if you say "I need to do even more drugs right now so I can get clean." Like we cant even admit we have a problem, people who know better are actively saying this is good news!
     
  7. wgbgator

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    Those things are related, at least thats what they told me in economics class. Besides our consumption here is not the whole world's. That supply will be sold and burned somewhere. Its "global warming" not "American warming."
     
  8. exiledgator

    exiledgator Gruntled

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    And this is why anaolgies suck.

    As stated up thread - the transition is happening. It will take time. While we're working our way through it, I'd prefer that the US take the lead for many (what I hope are obvious) reasons.
     
  9. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    Taking the lead by doing "drill baby drill?" I don't really understand this argument you are making, unless its some kind of "heightening the contradictions" thing.
     
  10. exiledgator

    exiledgator Gruntled

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    I don't view it as contradictory. Is it ideal? No. But we can't make the transition ideal, we must make it in reality.
     
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  11. citygator

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    If the pie gets smaller but we are producing a bigger slice of that smaller pie that is still a reduction. That's my point.
     
  12. NavyGator93

    NavyGator93 GC Hall of Fame

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    Not sure what is more sad, that you had to ask that question or that someone was so ill informed, that they "liked" the question.
     
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  13. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    True or not, we could make the pie even smaller by you know, not producing record levels of oil and gas ourselves, a thing entirely in our control. If production overall is decreasing, its not even helping normal people with prices in the shorterm here. Worst of both worlds!
     
  14. citygator

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    Supply doesn’t necessarily dictate how much is used especially if, as you pointed out, it doesn’t reduce price.
     
  15. higator85

    higator85 All American

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    Some of our oil sucks. Especially the oil from the wasteland AKA South Dakota (thanks Gov Noem!).