Update: Kelly buzz..."The Thread" Hall of Fame bound.

MtownGator · Nov 23, 2017

Gators shooting the lights out tonight.

tarponbro · Nov 23, 2017

Nostradamus said: ↑

OK, now that I'm done cooking/eating (west coast time), I'm going to forward a hypothesis. Before anyone gets wound up about that, a hypothesis is a conceptual framework that matches the empirical evidence available.

A hypothesis is not a "sure thing", "done deal", etc. It's a plausible explanation based on the available facts, so here goes...

Lets assume that Chip Kelly decided that he wanted to coach again vs be on ESPN

The choice is NFL or college

He's been fired from his last two NFL gigs, so college is the place to restart his career, and if it works out and he's interested, he can parlay that into another NFL shot

Let's say he has intel that UCLA is going to fire Mora this year, as well as knowing some other cool openings will come up, so Chip sends out feelers to folks who would be potential coaches on his staff. In this case he expressly says "how'd you like to join me at UCLA?" That's the context Vilma and others start with.

Then, Jim McElwain steps on his d!#& with the death threat comment before the UGA game, and Stricklin pounces to fire him for cause (or whatever they ended up calling it) and suddenly UF is in a position for SS to get us a new HC -- a totally unexpected development in the couching carousel for this year

Stricklin has Frost as his top candidate, but can't talk to him directly until season end, but starts to do his research on him nonetheless

Stricklin hits up Kelly to check on Frost and CK says "you know Frost is awesome, but I might be interested in coaching the Gators myself."

Stricklin regroups and starts negotiating with CK right now since he's a home run hire, and not actively coaching and can negotiate directly

SS knows he has a shot at a major coach who can dramatically change the trajectory of the program

After getting the basics nailed down, SS and Fuchs fly up to CK and hand him a contract offer, and since neither SS or Fuchs has met Kelly, they need to look him in the eye before handing over the offer

CK say's "nice to meet you, and in the meantime, here's my list of assistants if you want to vet them (the UCLA list put together previously), and if they all come back clean then I'd be in a position to say yes."

UCLA hears about the UF trip and fires Mora early

That opens the door to direct discussions w Kelly, but he already has has a very solid offer from UF that he's mostly happy with (remember that he indicated his interest in the role first, not UF), but there are a few things he's not on board with , like being forced to keep certain staff, and he's still waiting to hear back on the vetting of his staff.

There are still some old school power brokers at the UAA who aren't keen on handing over total control of everything to a coach, given that that's now how they're used to operating with other UF coaches.

CK then hits up Urban Myer for suggestions on additional counter-proposal items based their longstanding friendship

Kelly uses the UCLA interest as leverage to push for the remaining concessions from the UF administration he wants, in terms of full control of the staff (like not being forced to keep Shannon or others)

UF concedes and CK agrees in principle, and is willing to sign a deal

Additional timing considerations come in to play, like the time still needed to finish vetting CK's potential staff, as well as the dynamics SS is managing in terms of maximizing media attention from an announcement.

Timing of the final agreement is such that UF decides to cancel official visits for this weekend and will bring recruits back after a formal announcement

As for CK having visited Gville before, it appears he's been here before based on his relationship w Urban Myer

With the season wrapping up on Sat w FSU, and no official visits scheduled, recruiting is in a holding pattern for this weekend so no recruiting pressure is in place for either the lame duck staff or a new one

CK's staff is fully vetted by Sat, and the deal is signed, with a formal announcement made Sun or Mon to maximize the news cycle

CK and staff hit up the recruits and invite them to a Friday Night Lights - lite version to keep the class together and draw some additional interest

If no CK announcement happens by Mon, I think Scoop Stripmine is off to plans B, C and D.

Just some random musings based on what's been shared in the past 900+ pages...YMMV
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Wow, that's a really detailed post, especially with your chronological order of events that hypothetically took place. Good job, I'm impressed!! BTW, how long did take you to just make the outline for that post?

igabradley · Nov 23, 2017

dev5ap said: ↑

This is what happens when someone says, "What you think about Mullen?"....

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Interesting, I thought you were going to post the score for tonight's game. Not this video.

justkidding1 · Nov 23, 2017

@tilly and @BenTrillGriffin, what are the systems and sources saying? Thursday night update? Post turkey info?

No word leaking of either Florida or UCLA talking to more candidates?

bernie_lomax · Nov 23, 2017

Jeez this ole miss team is unlikable. Bunch of cheating punks.

igabradley · Nov 23, 2017

bernie_lomax said: ↑

Jeez this ole miss team is unlikable. Bunch of cheating punks.
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And yet.......

candymanfromgc · Nov 23, 2017

yeah I was just thinking I never know who to pull for in thbe egg bowl. was pulling for the mullets tonight though.

gatorgrad92 · Nov 23, 2017

Can't win by turning the ball over 5 times

nationalchamp24 · Nov 23, 2017

Tilly, you don’t seem to want to answer the questions. Is that bad news?

tilly · Nov 23, 2017

justkidding1 said: ↑

@tilly and @BenTrillGriffin, what are the systems and sources saying? Thursday night update? Post turkey info?

No word leaking of either Florida or UCLA talking to more candidates?
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Nothing.

tilly · Nov 23, 2017

nationalchamp24 said: ↑

Tilly, you don’t seem to want to answer the questions. Is that bad news?
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What question? I am watching the hoops game and posting there.

ExportGator · Nov 23, 2017

nationalchamp24 said: ↑

Tilly, you don’t seem to want to answer the questions. Is that bad news?
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Maybe he's on the sh!tter. Give the man some privacy.

ApexNC · Nov 23, 2017

nationalchamp24 said: ↑

Tilly, you don’t seem to want to answer the questions. Is that bad news?
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Let the man watch the basketball game

bernie_lomax · Nov 23, 2017

evermoresg said: ↑

Dan Dakich is known as the biggest a-hole on ESPN, and is regularly ripped by coaches, players, analysts, and the public alike.
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He’ll check the roster eventually to see that Hudson is not a grad transfer. I guess brockway will have to correct him again.

Guy is a complete tool.

evermoresg · Nov 23, 2017

A shame to see MSU stud QB Nick Fitzgerald go out early with a bad leg injury. As much hate as Mullen has gotten on this thread, he helped us bring home 2 titles, and I wish him and especially the kids he has playing for him well. Hope Fitzgerald comes back healthy next year.

nationalchamp24 · Nov 23, 2017

tilly said: ↑

What question? I am watching the hoops game and posting there.
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The questions on Kelly. A lot of UCLA pub. Trying to gauge your info for us so I can cut the stress on Kelly.

tilly · Nov 23, 2017

nationalchamp24 said: ↑

The questions on Kelly. A lot of UCLA pub. Trying to gauge your info for us so I can cut the stress on Kelly.
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I mean, What is the question? What has not been answered in this 967 page thread? LOL.
It is thanksgiving. Nothing is happening. No planes at the airport, offices are dark. Nothing.

I have not heard anyone on the Florida side say to change the thread title.

steve6137 · Nov 23, 2017

LonedawgUF said: ↑

I take it you really hate the guy so just the hell with everything he did do for UF.
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Not at all. I’ve met him and spoke with him on a few occasions. He’s a nice enough guy, but his personal arrogance and his arrogance concerning UF athletics did a great deal of harm to the football program.
He did great things and bad things- a mixed bag to be sure. The adoration that some show for Foley is a real overreach in my opinion. Overall I’m glad he’s gone.

thegatorvault · Nov 23, 2017

Sorry but it's irritating when people keep asking for updates, especially at 11:20pm on Thanksgiving night.

These guys have done all they can trying to keep us informed and have said that things will probably be quiet until the announcement is actually made. Regardless, I am sure they will let us know if they hear something and are allowed to share it.

Relax and enjoy the ride/thread!

tilly · Nov 23, 2017

What UCLA "pub" is out there that hasn't been seriously questioned and addressed?

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