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UPDATE: Ahmaud Arbery's 3 murderers all found guilty. Sentenced to LIFE in prison.

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by orangeblue_coop, May 5, 2020.

  1. 92gator

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    You seem to have mistaken me for someone who gives a shit about this case (which ive scarcely thought of since the story first broke), or about your opinion about what I think.

    Cheers!

    Enjoy your circle jerk!
     
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  2. orangeblue_coop

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    How ironic that you suddenly stopped caring once the evidence started piling up against your cherished citizen arresters and showed that they were in fact cold-blooded murderers. Better luck next time!
     
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  3. GatorNorth

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    Me: I could care less about this case

    Also me: but I’ll post about it 20 times in this thread.
     
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  4. persuader

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    Terrible set of events. Very appropriate verdict imo.
     
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  5. mutz87

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    Gratuitously racist defense attorneys. Great and proper verdict, but some things don't change.
     
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  6. GatorFanCF

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    Yes, I’m certain there are other towns that have nefarious ne’er do wells all through the criminal justice system. And, we should not accept it.

    At the same time, how do we compare with justice and how it’s been dispensed historically (probably great to wonderful) and how it’s delivered around the world? Again, we have millions of people - many of color - who seek to come here and live. Must mean we’re offering something better.

    The Left often comes across like the tyrannical parent who berates the child for “only” getting a 97 on an exam and focusing on what was missed. The kid is not perfect. Nor is our country. Justice was served - have a drink, a cigar, or whatever you enjoy and savor it for a moment. It’s Thanksgiving. Friday feel free to renew the litany of possible wrongs.
     
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  7. BigCypressGator1981

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    lol at you pretending to not give a shit about this case. You’ve been in here since page 1 white knighting for murderers. Own it.
     
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  8. orangeblue_coop

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    I'll have a drink when every person who is wrongly imprisoned in your beloved justice system is freed, and when every corrupt judge, prosecutor and police officer who is a part of your beloved justice system is stripped of their power. Until then, no drinks, no cigars, no celebrating for me. Just because you have the bar set pathetically low for the justice system doesn't mean that others do as well.
     
  9. GatorFanCF

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    Cheers. As my late uncle Manny (UF Grad) used to say: “life is beautiful.”
     
  10. cocodrilo

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    I want to be clear about something. Was it the third murderer (the one besides the father and son) who actually took the video that did them in? Or was it someone else who is never mentioned?
     
  11. GatorNorth

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    yes, he did.

    Darwin Award nominee for sure.
     
  12. gator_lawyer

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    The insane thing about this case is that the cops and two different DAs tried to bury it. It took the video going public and a lot of backlash for this case to even happen. If that video never goes public, those three murderers might have gotten away with their modern-day lynching.
     
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  13. cocodrilo

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    I guess he told the father and son, "Don't worry, guys, I've got it all on video."
     
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  14. orangeblue_coop

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    For some reason he thought that showing the video to the police would help exonerate them. And it would've, had the meddling media not gotten in the way.
     
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  15. rivergator

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    To be precise, that poster posted 47 times on this thread about the case he doesn't care a single thing about.
     
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  16. g8rjd

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    There’s an interesting throughline between the self defense arguments made here and in the Wisconsin case. In both cases, the defendant introduced a firearm to the situation and claimed that the decedent attempted to take the firearm from them as the basis for the use of deadly force. Obviously, the results differed based on the evaluation of that assertion, but it presents an interesting and likely to be more frequent self defense argument as we see the move away from the duty to flee before introducing deadly force in public and the increase in SYG laws and similar caselaw.
     
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  17. GatorNorth

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    Seems a lot easier (to me) to claim self defense when you insert yourself into the middle of an ongoing chaotic riot in Wisconsin than it is when you leave your Georgia home for the sole purpose of chasing down and entrapping a singular person minding his own business while jogging through town, substantive state law issues aside. Especially when you admit on the stand that you weren’t fearful before pulling out your gun.

    Of course, the convo that gets completely missed in WI is in what universe but ours is it acceptable for a 16 year old to leave his home, cross state lines, and borrow an AR 15 to patrol the street as a self appointed vigilante protector of the streets, when the punk kid wasn’t even old enough to drive and had to have his mother drive him? While he may not be guilty of all of the elements of murder, hence the acquittal, he still is a punk and had no business being there.
     
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  18. CaliGator

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    Lives forever changed by an avoidable tragedy.
     
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  19. BLING

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    It’s quite a difference when you are chasing a guy down in your truck. If that could have been successfully spun into “self defense” the rule of law would be worthless IMO.

    Not much similar between them, other than both cases initiated because a yahoo (or yahoo’s) with a gun inserted themselves into a situation. The situations they inserted themselves into were totally different.

    Rittenhause I believe was 17 though. The idea of a minor being able to open carry into a riot(or anywhere) is indeed totally ludicrous. Actually it’s stupid for anyone to open carry in public, but that he was a minor attending a riot made it an extra layer of stupid.
     
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  20. scooterp

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    A horrible assessment of the WI incident. And there were 3 “punks” involved but Kyle wasn’t one of them. Btw … The rioters had no business being there.
     
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