UPDATE: Ahmaud Arbery's 3 murderers all found guilty. Sentenced to LIFE in prison.

You must not have had much experience in the trades.

Also, do you realize how much vandalism occurs on constructions sites?

It's just poor form to go on someone else's property. Period.

 

I bet he took a piss in that house. When I used to run, I did far worse. There was even a time in Hvar, Croatia that I didn’t make it. It was awful

 

Never said it was. I think you're missing my point. My point is not that the McMichaels are innocent. My point is that the bleeding hearts here are getting all indignant about somebody getting shot who obviously put themselves in a dicey situation.

 

And then some of you are willingly framing my point in a dishonest manner. But, you've done your good liberal deed of the day, haven't you? You called somebody a racist instead of actually discussing the questions at hand.

 

They are going to say anything at this point to keep their dying false narrative alive. Breaking in and trespassing new construction? No worries, nothing to see there. Neighbors should just laugh this off and continue on with their family BBQ's. Maybe even invite the perp over to have some BBQ. I mean, it's all good, right?

 

1. Posters here have found no reported incidents of any burglaries besides the stolen gun near the McMichael home. Do you have evidence to disprove this?
2. No, it is not McMichael's fault that someone stole from him (I never said that) but leaving a gun in an unlocked car is stupid nonetheless.
3. I like how you only address the truck part. I said specifically that since they never saw him commit a crime (other than running through their neighborhood) and that they brought guns, and didn't call 911 if they thought he had just committed a felony speaks about intentions. As I stated, I don't think they set out to murder him, but I do think they set out to "catch" him and knew it could go south. As far as the truck they could have easily called the cops and followed him at a pretty slow pace until the police arrived. They didn't want to. They wanted to play cop.
4. Yes, Arbery shouldn't have gone into the house (which was open and under construction which hardly compares to breaking in an occupied dwelling which would allow the invocation of Castle Law). But make no mistake his death isn't on him at all. At the very most it deserved a talking to by actual cops. It's some butterfly effect bullshit. The real what if is What if the McMichaels had never decided to be vigilantes?

 

"My question was that if Arbery hadn't been breaking into the house prior to, would this have happened?"

Surely you meant if Arbery hadn't allegedly been breaking into the house?

 

No, they should call the actual police. If this was the only crime they saw it was not a felony and they had no legal right to try to enforce a citizens arrest.

 

1. Posters here? Are you serious? I'm supposed to take posters here word for it and not the official record? Don't worry, you answered my question. No, this has NOT been confirmed and a stolen pistol would qualify as a previous break-in as well. I know in my neighborhood, we would not wait for 3 or 4 break-ins to consider it an issue. But regardless, it has NOT been confirmed that there were no other break-ins. I'll wait for the GBI to tell me otherwise. Sorry, can't trust all of our friends here on TH.

2. You clearly tried to blame McMichael for his pistol being stolen, because you know it hurts your argument. I shouldn't have to lock my car door. The law doesn't say I have to lock my car door. The law DOES say that you can't steal from my car.

3. Whether they called the non-emergency or 911, most people DON'T call the cops right before they set out to perpetrate a crime. Generally speaking, criminals try to avoid the cops when they set out to commit crimes. That they called the cops before the shooting indicates to me they were not out to shoot anybody. The LAST thing you would do is invite cops to a scene where you're about to shoot somebody (maliciously).

4. If Arbery was trespassing (which he clearly appears to be), then it would obviously deserve more than just a "talking to" by the cops. And my point is not that the McMichaels are innocent. It's that Arbery clearly put himself into a compromising situation by engaging in a criminal act beforehand. To get all indignant about this is ridiculous. People die every day for things much less in their control, yet we don't have a thread running for all of them.

 

Did he actually go into the house? The video shows that he was there less than 3 minutes, took nothing, and continued on his jog of his accord.

Why did McMichaels Sr. think there were a string of burglaries in the neighbor if there wasn't even one?

 

Care to explain? You don't really believe contractors and subs are leaving their tools in wide open houses, do you? Or that a house at that stage of construction would have anything more than plywood, 2x4s cut offs laying around.

 

I work in a field closely related to construction, and have been to many sites. You have no clue what you are talking about if you think valuable tools or supplies are left in a wide open house. People in the real world would get fired for that.

 

Moot point. Whether or not the builder has any tools laying around is irrelevant. Trespassing does not require there being tools laying around. Arbery trespassed on the builder's property. End of story.

 

Yes, because construction laborers NEVER do anything that would get them fired. You really do know how the real world works. And again, it's a moot point. There doesn't have to be anything of value laying on the floor. Trespassing is trespassing for a reason. .

 

LOL ... Okay ... first you said I was wrong, now it's a moot point ... Also, the Georgia Prosecutor I quoted above said it's probably not a crime or a misdemeanor at most. It's probably not even misdemeanor trespassing by Georgia law. Walking on someone else's property isn't always the crime of trespassing, in fact, it's usually not. There is nothing on that video that shows a Felony that would have allowed the rednecks to do what they did, and attempt to arrest him. End of story.

 

Given the outrageously preferential treatment the McMichaels were given by police and prosecutors, I think it's safe to say they aren't "most people."

 

This thread 100% confirms Louisville's trolling contrarian status. He exists to ruffle feathers. I won't bother engaging again.

 

I live in a new neighborhood about 90% built. For years white people have been popping into open houses as they are constructed without being shot. I’ve seen plenty of neighbors do it and never occurred to me to grab shotgun and kill them. Guess I’m behind the times.

 

Why do you say he was "breaking in?" I haven't read anywhere that he did that and there is unclear info as to whether he even entered the house from what I've read so far.

 

I'd just ignore the person trolling. There's a perfectly rational explanation why that guy would stop and look into a house under construction, even aside from the "I was just curious" reason.
https://nypost.com/2020/05/08/ahmaud-arbery-shooting-was-a-hate-crime-his-sister-says/
“He actually wanted more schooling,” she said. “He wanted to be an electrician, that’s what he was aspiring to be.”