The five million saved will go back into faculty recruitment so the they have that pool, and any position the staff from the DEI office apply for is going to be fast tracked. It’s pretty clear the intent is to help them out if they want to stay, without saying explicitly.
Its not BS, its a legitimate tactic, but I dont think you can expect using it will not harm you. If the civil rights people believed this, we'd still have Jim Crow lol. But of course we dont have those type of people in administrative positions, just squishy unprincipled careeerists.
The DEI administrators aren't faculty. The members of the faculty who did DEI work kept their faculty jobs. If UF was serious about helping these people stay, it could have done that, as other universities have. Instead, it dropped the hammer on them out of nowhere. Don't buy the spin.
If some government officials in the South refused to enforce Jim Crow, would this have been your response?
It wasn’t even remotely out of nowhere. There were discussions and town halls with the affected parties going back to last fall. Can we not have an honest conversation on this? Why does everything have to turn into a full “good vs. evil” argument? There are 2 pages in that response, scroll right for the second one.
Wonder if someone that worked in DEI could actually be productive in a meaningful job with substance. Somewhat like someone from HR trying to survive in corporate finance or operations …… heck, even sales or marketing. I wish them luck in their next endeavor.
Respectfully, I know people who were laid off. And I talked to them after the layoffs happened. They received no warning that they were going to lose their jobs. Danaya Wright either was lied to or is spinning things because of the bad PR UF was facing. And yes, I also know Danaya Wright (and her partner). I think she's a good person, so I have to believe she received bad information. I'm having an honest conversation here.
Another extreme response. Give me a break. If you are argument that there are disenfranchised voters that could not vote out DeSantis, I am right there. But to call a DEI program equivalent to Rosa Parks is a disgrace to what Rosa Parks did.
Fair enough. But there’s an awful lot of things that would have to not have happened for that to be true, and they absolutely did make efforts to protect people (see below and as you alluded to). Would be bizarre if they did all that stuff but kept one small group in the dark, and then everything in her letter was false, and no one spoke up publicly or anonymously to refute it. So I will politely say I’m skeptical. But the larger point is that people keep trying to blame UF, UF wasn’t trying to do any of this. It’s DeSantis and his culture warriors. That’s where the fight should be. Florida shut down state funding for diversity, equity and inclusion. These UF programs could be affected - The Independent Florida Alligator
Not the point. If you are saying breaking the law with intention is acceptable to you in some circumstances and not 'BS' case closed as far as I'm concerned. We simply disagree on when its an acceptable tactic then.
I think we actually agree on principles, but have a disagreement on whether a public institution can go against the executive branch of government. I suspect we agree that the execution of the order was poor.
If you are talking to a liberal WRT race, illegal immigration, sexism, and LGBTQ(and whatever additions are made this month), then the short answer to your question is an emphatic NO! If you do not toe the liberal line on these your automatically a racist, sexist, homophobic deplorable POS. There are no exceptions allowed to this rule. Actually, you even having the nerve to ask such a question will most likely get you blocked by 20-30 people here.
UF didn't pass SB 266 or the FL BOG Reg 9.016, but UF chose how to implement it. You are welcome to be skeptical, but the people I spoke with had no reason to lie. What I can tell you is that multiple universities moved their DEI officers into new roles. UF did not. Instead, UF was very loud about "complying" with SB 266. Do I think Sasse made this choice? Probably not. It was likely the DeSantis hacks on the UF BOT. Regardless, I'm disgusted that the university did it and how it handled it. As for Danaya's letter, I don't recommend assuming because you didn't hear about it there was no pushback. Keep in mind that folks who lost their jobs aren't incentivized to go public while they're job hunting, and the folks who kept their jobs (faculty) are more apt to handle things behind closed doors.
I'd say the disagreement is less "can" and more "should." And it seems the "should" issue depends on the circumstances. You think it is acceptable when the situation is significant enough (i.e., Jim Crow).
At last now a person will be judged on their ability and not some artificial measure. Emmitt does not know what DEI means otherwise he would support this move. GO GATORS !
