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U.S. drops humanitarian aid into Gaza while ally Israel obstructs it

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by cocodrilo, Mar 2, 2024.

  1. slayerxing

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    in 20 years of fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan 40,000 kids were killed depending on where you get your estimated. Israel is going to blow past that number in one year.

    at some point if they can’t control themselves they become no different from the monsters they say they are trying to stop. And there is no reason for the us to sanction the obviously lazy and sometimes indiscriminate killing of civilians. Especially children.
     
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  2. channingcrowderhungry

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    Is it a matter of they can't control themselves or the nature of fighting Hamas? I'm not trying to excuse the deaths, again, I just don't see an exit strategy for Israel or the US that makes the situation any better going forward.
     
  3. AgingGator

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    Well said. Thank you!
     
  4. BigCypressGator1981

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    get ready to be called an anti-Semite for using the G word.
     
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  5. cocodrilo

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    So I guess the long and short of it is, Hamas and Israel have to take turns committing genocide. And the US can't stay out of it (like it can't stay out of anything else), we have to choose which genocide to support. Israel wins hand down! Bomb 'em, starve 'em, make them children pay!
     
  6. cocodrilo

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    The Jewish people are not the state of Israel, and the state of Israel is not the Jewish people.

    At the moment the state or government of Israel seems basically to be an asshole named Netanyahu, who has been on trial for corruption since sometime back in the 20th century. The wheels of (Israeli) justice grind slowly.
     
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  7. gatorjo

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    This is what you're really saying :

    "Israel has every right to commit war crimes in response to a terrorist attack."

    Pathetic.
     
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  8. cocodrilo

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    And we have to support the war crimes because, well, because it's Israel. Our support is unconditional.
     
  9. slayerxing

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    With Russians firing into Ukraine intentionally for two years they’ve only killed 2000 kids. But somehow Israel is in no way to blame at all in excessive civilian deaths…
     
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  10. cocodrilo

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    Hey, here's an idea. Why doesn't Israel take Palestinian children to live in Israel, just like the Russians took Ukrainian children to live in Russia. No, wait, that got Russia charged with a war crime. Never mind.
     
  11. gatorjo

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    Precisely. And the Trumppublicans don't mind if Israel commits war crimes.

    To their credit, at least they will come right our and say it. We can only hope that they don't pretend to be "pro-life" on other threads.
     
  12. duggers_dad

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    I was wondering how far we’d have to get, on this thread, before learning it’s the Republicans.
     
  13. gatorjo

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    Well, most of us already knew. Glad you could learn.
     
  14. duggers_dad

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    We learned that you were a Democrat.
     
  15. duggers_dad

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    “Hamas is using children as human shields.”

    Israel solves problem by starving human shields.
     
  16. Gator715

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    Any outrage over “war crimes” you have at Israel should be directed tenfold towards Hamas.

    For some reason, the only way of drawing any sort of moral equivalency between Hamas and Israel is through holding Israel to a higher standard.
     
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  17. channingcrowderhungry

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    That's what I don't understand. We can condemn the actions of Hamas and Israel, which most people universally are here on this board. Outside of that, I havent seen anyone tell me what Israel is supposed to do in this situation? They're having to fight a guerilla force in urban environments that has no regard for Israeli or Palestinian life.
     
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  18. l_boy

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    The deaths of 25,000 out of 2 million is not a genocide.
     
  19. l_boy

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    My guess is Israel is being more indiscriminate than they could be. But what is the appropriate number of deaths? 10.000? 15,000? I don’t know.

    The fact is that at least 1/3 of the population support Hamas. Many in the population are complicit in the attacks and hostage taking and there is a high amount of support among Gazans for the eradication of Israel. Best I can tell they have no interest in a 2 state solution.

    On the flip side Netenyahu has been a complete failure and his negligence lead to this attack. This administration is filled with people who are militant zionists. They will likely get voted out of office so they have every political motivation to keep the bombing going because as soon as they stop they get voted out.

    At this point I think it would be appropriate for Biden to put some real political pressure to stop the indiscriminate bombing
     
  20. gatorjo

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    Laughable. The ONLY response Israel can have to a terrorist attack is indiscriminate bombing, etc., that results in over 30,000 civilian deaths?