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Discussion in 'Awesome Recruiting' started by tommyvee, Jan 6, 2022.

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  1. SeabudGator

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    This is factually wrong. Only 1.2% of D1 football players get drafted. At UF they tout about 40% of “starters” being drafted. Lots of non senior starters. We typically have about 5 drafted/year. Florida Gators Draft Picks - NFL Draft Results | EDSFootball.com

    Many drafted have 1 or 2 year careers. “Most” will make NO money at the next level - guaranteed $ in the nfl is rare air. That is why they should either get a great education, paid, or both. The NCAA made a joke of education (see academic fraud at unc).

    As to alumni money, Folks smart enough to make hundreds of millions (what it takes to throw around millions annually) are usually not dumb enough to pay unproven talent millions. Those that might be will soon suffer the parting of a fool and his money. Very dubious about millions changing hands up front without performance clauses.
     
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  2. Wanne15

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    Levin gave about 40 mil that had nothing to do with sports and I can promise you, it didn’t dent his bank account. Some of these donors are billionaires.
     
  3. gator10

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    How can the school whose athletic program make the 3rd most money not compete in the NIL sweepstakes? I think these kids are more just evaluating the new staff before making a decision. When all is said and done and we don’t land a class in the top 5 range, then I will begin to wonder. It’s still too early…
     
  4. Wanne15

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    I don’t think the money the program makes has much to do with it. Tenn has a couple billionaires that are boosters. The Browns owner is one. He could drop 30 mil a year to his grave and not ever notice.
     
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    ^This
     
  6. spike718

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    Did a wr target announce a commit today? I know my post is quite vague but It’s because I have almost zilch info on a rumor of a rumor.


    Edit…tyree Patterson
     
  7. gator_n_sc

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    I said guaranteed money money because that's when they start having real agents signing real contracts I didn't say everybody was going to get one but that's where they'll find the real guaranteed money because all these NIL deals aren't guaranteed from what I've seen. And how could they because there is nothing right now that binds these students to a school where a booster just paid them money to come there to begin with. the free transfer year eligibility rule make that whole guarantee money deal difficult
     
  8. Wanne15

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    Skipping UF because of talent in front of them isn’t happening just yet. We have no excuses, either get them or we are pretty much failing. Hopefully the dominoes start falling for us this summer. I know it’s too early to worry but a few schools are getting it done already. Another class in the teens would be very depressing.
     
  9. Wanne15

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    I’m sure a transfer will cut their money off. Maybe they get a better offer once they have shown something. Guaranteed or not, it spends the same and the vast majority will sign up. Many of todays kids that never play on Sundays will make a significant amount of money. There have been some very important gators that never went pro but could have still cashed in handsomely in this environment .
     
  10. apkgator

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    Because the school doesn't pay NIL, businesses/boosters do
     
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  11. gator10

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    Ahhh, who do you think is paying the money to support the athletics program? The 3rd most money is based on support of fans, boosters and businesses. It has nothing to do with the school which is a separate entity.
     
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  12. gator10

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    I think it is a sad state of affairs that we are having this discussion.
     
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  13. Wanne15

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    We get 50+ mil from the sec, 90k fans at games, tv contracts are huge. It’s not as much as nfl but there’s no players payroll. Sounds like a nice business plan to me.
     
  14. apkgator

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    I'm not sure if you have a point here. Everyone knows how the UAA generates it's money for the athletic programs at UF. And hopefully everyone learns that the UAA doesn't directly generate NIL money.

    Your suggestion seems to be that the UAA forego booster money and let that be directed toward NIL. Problem is, the UAA is grinding every dollar they can from boosters for facilities....which everyone and their brother has been whining about for years. And adding all these countless staffers and paying top dollar for head coaches. UF is fortunate to have a great financial situation, but that should not be mistaken for unlimited resources.
     
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  15. apkgator

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    Also funding staff and facilities for 18 sports, have to look at the big picture.
     
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    Yeah, now the rest, booster contributions, should shrink some if we expect them to spend it buying players with "NILs".

    NCAA has to put on their big boy pants and find the best way to organize this. Seems it'd be cleaner to just allow the university to pay and make real contracts. We're not known for being the best at playing the sketchy games of paying players "indirectly", and/or the NCAA never cuts us any slack if they can find any violation.
     
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  17. Wanne15

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    The university doesn’t have any interest in paying when they have a free roster. It would be better though.
     
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    Plus there are gonna be a lot of instances where you can get 750k from bama and be a part of their machine for 4 years or get 2 mil to go to like Arizona State or some nonsense. The obvious answer here is bama….you’re still getting serious cash
     
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  19. Wanne15

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    Yes, it is fortunate for the dead weight sports for sure. I had to pay for my kid to play basketball in public school this year. They could always go that route I guess. Pay your way of whatever it costs the school to play a sport that is in the red. Fundraisers and all that crap. I guess they are entitled to get a free education and have football pay for it though?
     
  20. apkgator

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    The real wild card is going to be NIL for minor sports. How much does Trinity Thomas demand, what could Grant Holloway have gotten, Caleb Dressel? Are those big enough names to get a national NIL deal regardless of the school they attend? Probably. In truth, that's how NIL should work....kids paid regardless of the school because they bring true value to whatever sponsor pays them.
     
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