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Trump's Troubles

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Feb 13, 2021.

  1. sierragator

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    Except of course the orange god.
     
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  2. duchen

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    Anyone else who said this publicly would be subject to a government motion to remand. Especially in a national security case. This is where the powerful are treated differently.
     
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  3. ursidman

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    He should but he probably won't

     
  4. GatorJMDZ

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    I'm willing to bet they turned down multiple offers to flip. I'd love to know what their attorneys were recommending they do.
     
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  5. duchen

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    As an example of how Trump is receiving better treatment than other defendants who are on bond, Trump gave a speech calling the new charges “prosecutorial misconduct.” Any other defendant who made a statement like that whole out on bond would be summoned before the judge and likely remanded. Trump faces additional charges in Mar-a-Lago documents case
     
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  8. ajoseph

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    The DA also indicated she is “ready to go.” Barricades have just been installed around the courthouse, and she stated that her decision will be unpopular by many people. It does not look promising for Mr Trump.
     
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  9. G8trGr8t

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    is there a point where bad legal advice becomes malpractice or even criminal in nature when given to help cover up a conspiracy?
     
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    Just my opinion but I suspect that if they were represented by truly independent counsel they would have flipped by now. Again just a guess I suspect that they were probably offered the opportunity to plead to a misdemeanor with no jail time if they agreed to testify against their boss with the orange complexion. Maybe it's just me the situation that immediately comes to mind is the refusal of "soldiers" in an organized crime family to testify against the Don especially when their attorneys are paid by the family.
     
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  11. G8trGr8t

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    I can imagine the conversation..

    How could you be so stupid?

    This is not coming out of my pocket..

    and that was just the rape case...rinse, repeat for the current and pending indictments

    Trump complains it's "unpleasant" telling Melania about indictment — while she's reportedly "livid" (msn.com)

    Former President Donald Trump expressed dismay at sharing updates about his legal status with his wife, Melania. "It's always unpleasant when you have to go in and tell your wife that, 'By the way, tomorrow sometime I'm going to be indicted,'" Trump said during a Friday radio interview. "And she says, 'For what?' And I say, 'I have no idea. I have absolutely no idea,'" he added.

    Trump last week was hit with a superseding indictment, adding to his classified documents case, after the Justice Department alleged that he attempted to get rid of surveillance footage from his Mar-a-Lago estate in West Palm Beach, Florida. Though the former first lady has remained relatively mum about her husband's ongoing legal plights, two unnamed sources told the New York Times that Melania was "livid" over Trump's legal team's failure to raise more objections during the deposition in his sexual abuse and defamation case with longtime columnist E. Jean Carroll. Melania has also expressed support for Trump's bid for the 2024 presidency, maintaining her role as his "most trusted and most transparent adviser," per Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway.
     
  12. citygator

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    Trump playing checkers vs Smith playing chess.

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  13. G8trGr8t

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    DOJ has released the witness list to team trump. They know who cooperated at this point. I suspect that some may have new attorneys soon. I wonder how much ketchup had to be scrubbed off the walls when he was told the information.

    Donald Trump Discovers Identities of Mar-a-Lago Witnesses Who Testified (msn.com)

    Donald Trump will now be aware of the identities of two previously unnamed Mar-a-Lago workers who were cited in a superseding indictment as part of the classified documents case.

    In a series of tweets, Lisa Rubin, an attorney and legal analyst for MSNBC, wrote how the Department of Justice had provided the former president's legal team, as well co-defendant Walt Nauta's lawyers, with additional information to view in relation to the classified documents case.

    Special Counsel Jack Smith's office said that, included in the new evidence it has, there is additional CCTV footage from Mar-a-Lago Club. This had been obtained between May 9 and May 12, 2023, ahead of the upcoming trial. Trump has repeatedly criticized Smith's investigation and argued that it is politically motivated. The former president denies all wrongdoing. Newsweek has contacted Trump's legal team for comment via email.

    The apparent new evidence arrives after a superseded indictment, unsealed in late July, revealed Trump has been charged with three additional felony offenses as part of the classified documents on top of the 37 he has already pleaded not guilty to. These include allegations he called on Mar-a-Lago employee Carlos De Oliveira to delete security-camera footage taken at the Florida resort, which had been sought by federal prosecutors.
     
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  14. sierragator

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    Those witnesses would be well advised to steer clear of balconies, small planes, and open windows. I'm sure the death threats are already rolling in from the maga mob.
     
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  15. G8trGr8t

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  16. Gatorhead

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    I take exception, they are going down with him because they chose partisanship, greed and self promotion over common sense.

    Anybody and I mean Anybody that gets in bed with this monster gets exactly what they deserve, because any IDIOT, that spent 5 minutes examining the fools past and actions, would know better.

    How many fools are in jail from coat-tailing with this pathetic man? All the best people, get exactly what's coming to them.
     
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  17. Gatorhead

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    No Sir.
    Lmao about Hunter when Jarid and Ivanka took a cool billion from the lunatics that financed 9/11.

    Well, supposedly they are selling daddy down the river to.

    What a bunch of creeps.
     
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  18. G8trGr8t

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    more CCTV footage of bad behaivor (obstruction of justice) disclosed Monday pm. Trump is going to send those poor guys to prison.

    JUST IN: Special Counsel Reveals ‘Additional’ Surveillance Footage In NEW Filing From Bombshell Trump Case (msn.com)

    News broke last Thursday afternoon that Special Counsel Jack Smith has filed three additional charges against Trump: one additional count of unlawful retention of National Defense Information and two new obstruction counts based on allegations that Trump and co-defendants Walt Nauta and Carlos De Oliveira attempted to delete surveillance video footage at The Mar-a-Lago Club in the summer of 2022.

    But a new filing posted on Monday reveals that Smith’s team has produced “additional” footage that Trump’s team didn’t have before:

    Per the protective order issued in this case (ECF No. 27), the Government has provided two prior productions of discovery to Defendants Donald J. Trump and Waltine Nauta. See ECF Nos. 30, 59, 80. On July 31, 2023, the Government provided a third production of unclassified discovery to counsel for Defendants Trump and Nauta (“Production 3”). Once counsel for Defendant Carlos De Oliveira enters an appearance, the Government will promptly provide the three productions to his counsel. Production 3 includes, inter alia, additional CCTV footage; location and other data obtained pursuant to a search warrant; additional memorialization of witness interviews; and grand jury transcripts. To facilitate review, the Government also identified and separately produced for the defense “key” excerpts from the CCTV footage.

    Included in Production 3 is additional CCTV footage from The Mar-a-Lago Club that the Government obtained from the Trump Organization on May 9 and May 12, 2023, in response to a grand jury subpoena served on April 27. On July 27, as part of the preparation for the superseding indictment coming later that day and the discovery production for Defendant De Oliveira, the Government learned that this footage had not been processed and uploaded to the platform established for the defense to view the subpoenaed footage. The Government’s representation at the July 18 hearing that all surveillance footage the Government had obtained pre-indictment had been produced was therefore incorrect. See 7/18/2023 Tr. at 8. With this production, which also contains CCTV footage obtained after the original indictment was returned that pertains to the new obstruction allegations in the superseding indictment, the Government has produced all the CCTV footage it obtained during its investigation. With the completion of Production 3, the Government has also now disclosed all unclassified memorialization of witness interviews finalized by today’s date and all grand jury transcripts in the Government’s possession.
     
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  19. mrhansduck

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    Trump posted today that he's heard another fake indictment is coming at 5. I don't see anything yet indicating it's happened.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/01/trump-indictment-live-updates-former-president-predicts-charges.html

    “I hear that Deranged Jack Smith, in order to interfere with the Presidential Election of 2024, will be putting out yet another Fake Indictment of your favorite President, me, at 5:00 P.M.,” Trump wrote on Truth Social.

    “A Nation In Decline!” he said in a subsequent post.
     
  20. mdgator05

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    Trump was just informed that he was indicted per CNN. The indictment is currently sealed.