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Trump's Troubles

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Feb 13, 2021.

  1. gatorchamps960608

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    Yes, the AG could have a role, not the POTUS.
     
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    As an assist to the Colorado ballot case, this ruling refers to the president as an officer of the USA about 5 dozen times.
     
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    a pink hued mushroom cloud has been reported in south FL - said to taste like ketchup
     
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    Rationally Trump and especially his attorneys probably realized that the claim of absolute immunity was absurd on its face. In case it's not obvious the only reason that the Orange One and his legal team even bothered to raise the issue was as a delaying tactic. I guess it was also part of the spaghetti or sh*t strategy, throw enough on the wall and hope that something sticks.
     
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  6. ajoseph

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    It’s (the delay strategy) been pretty damn effective.
     
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  7. ursidman

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    Yep. If he can delay the federal charges long enough and get re-elected he could get his carefully chosen AG to fire Jack Smith and make the charges go away - case dismissed. Or take the short cut and just pardon himself - never mind the constitutional issues it would raise - what is just one more constitutional crisis to trump?
    If he is innocent don’t the voters deserve to know that BEFORE the election?
     
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  8. VAg8r1

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    I agree. I think the former is more likely than the latter. If he is elected and his AG drops the case(s) against he can claim that he was just ending the Biden ordered "witch hunt". Although the result would be the same the problem with a self-pardon other than the Constitutional question is that it would be an implicit admission of guilt.
     
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    Going with the "shoe on the other foot" test, we shouldn't want our side to be able to do what we don't want the other side to be able to do. If Trump's arguments and theories are correct, it seems that Biden and Harris are nearly unfettered in what they can do to try to stay in office in the event Trump wins in 2024.
     
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    That would stand to reason in a logical world. The cult would never stand for that.
     
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    Of course he would have to have something to pardon....IF a federal case wrapped before the election against him I would certainly hope he wouldn't get elected
     
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    Of course Biden wouldn't doing anything like what Trump did which is why Republicans aren't worried about the precedent they may be setting.
     
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    Yeah, I personally don't think Biden would do that either, but who knows about the next Democrat or the one after that if we are going to have that sort of prisoner's dilemma where there's no legal downside to engaging in fraud, lies, pressuring election workers and officials, etc.
     
  14. GatorRade

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    One bit of unintentional black comedy from the immunity proceeding came when Trump’s lawyer admitted that the president could in theory legally use seal team 6 to assasinate his chief political rival. I was thinking, you do realize that the president’s chief political rival is, um, your own client!
     
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  15. channingcrowderhungry

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    I've said it on here a few times. If the president get immunity from everything Biden should just shoot Trump in the head and call it a day.
     
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  16. mikemcd810

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    Except he would actually lose all of his support if he were to do so.
     
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    So no Trump or Biden?
    What’s the downside again?
    Kidding of course, in case the secret service is monitoring this thread :).
     
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  18. mrhansduck

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    That was such a weird exchange. I gathered he was saying there's an exception - that a president could be prosecuted for using the Seals to kill his rivals but only if the president was first "convicted" in the Senate? Based on their other arguments, I'm pretty sure they'd be making their double jeopardy argument in that situation. It's like a silly game of legal whack a mole with his team, lol.
     
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  19. channingcrowderhungry

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    His support is mostly anti-Trump people like myself anyway. Sooooooo
     
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    The U.S. Supreme Court began hearing arguments in former President Donald Trump's fight to prevent being kicked off state presidential ballots for his actions involving the 2021 Capitol attack in a case with major implications for the 2024 November election.

    Link to live video:

    https://www.youtube.com/live/-HjgmO9C52c?si=c6iI0DWKF_vUAk7k
     
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