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Trump's plan for mass deportations

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Nov 8, 2024.

  1. gator_jo

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    To be honest, I'm pretty much going to be happy no matter what happens. For me it goes like this;

    a) If Trump doesn't really deport many people, the country won't have wasted a lot of money on it...... just to allow most or all of those people back in on some type of work visa. I'd like that.

    b) Trump does deport a lot of people and the economy goes to $hit and I get to laugh at MAGAs and people like you, because.....well, what kind of person actually thought you could yank the workforce from crucial industries and not suffer harmful results?
    - Yes, the stock market would temporarily crater, but I'll remain able to retire in my early 50's if I choose. Right now, that is.

    There is one highly possible outcome that would disgust me;
    c) Trump is smart enough to recognize the absurdity of the lies he used to con his low-info cult....... and so he only tries to deport people from Blue states. Sort of a "weaponized politicization" of his dumb-a$$ plans. Like..... making Blue states suffer for the garbage red staters voted for. And we know that, as a dedicated criminal, he does things like this.


    Anyways - that's my take. I'm more likely to be satisified. Or at least entertained.
     
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  2. G8trGr8t

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    this isn't going to go over well. latins remember they voted for this. first of many more to come I'm sure.

    Miami man says wife detained in ICE raid: "They snatched her"

    One man, who did not want to be named, told CBS News Miami that ICE had taken his wife during one of these raids in the Miami neighborhood of Brownsville.

    "It's despicable what they're doing right now," he said. "It's very embarrassing."

    The man told CBS News Miami that he wanted Mr. Trump to let his wife stay in the U.S., as their 11th anniversary is on Friday.

    When asked if she was in the process of getting her U.S. citizenship, the man told CBS News Miami that she was right in the middle of it. The man's wife, who's Venezuelan and has lived in the U.S. for a few years, had a court date set up and "everything was good" until that moment.
     
  3. gator_jo

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    ^^ I wish they'd asked if those people had voted for Trump.


    Here's another interesting article about Latino MAGAs that are suddenly all "Get rid of everyone else but me!!!"

    I find it hilarious.



    A South Florida Republican is urging President Donald Trump to spare hundreds of thousands of people from Latin America and the Caribbean from his immigration crackdown.

    Rep. Maria Elvira Salazar called on the Department of Homeland Security in a letter Friday not to remove people from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela who were allowed to enter the U.S. by President Joe Biden’s administration under a humanitarian parole program.


    https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/01/24/congress/immigration-politics-00200600
     
  4. Norcaligator

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    Do Orange Skidmark and his followers not realize deporting agricultural workers in California will impact food prices elsewhere?
    The central valley of California provides about 1/4 of the United States' food.
    Keep cheering guys - as long as it upsets the libbies, right?
    FAFO.

    “We’re in the middle of our citrus harvesting. This sent shockwaves through the entire community,” said Casey Creamer, president of the industry group California Citrus Mutual, on Thursday. “People aren’t going to work and kids aren’t going to school. Yesterday about 25% of the workforce, today 75% didn’t show up.”

    “If this is the new normal, this is absolute economic devastation,” said Richard S. Gearhart, an associate professor of economics at Cal State-Bakersfield.

    “So, this could have some serious deleterious long run impacts beyond lost farm productivity. Losses in education and health would be catastrophic,” he said. “Basically, you know how Kern County complains about oil? This event would be analogous to shutting down oil production. Economic catastrophe.”

    A SURPRISING IMMIGRATION RAID IN KERN COUNTY FORESHADOWS WHAT AWAITS FARMWORKERS AND BUSINESSES | East County Magazine
     
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  5. ColoradoNoVaGator

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    what percentage of these central valley ag workers do you think have outstanding removal orders?
     
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    I believe Trump issued a directive on the way out of office in 2021 to extend protections for Venezuelans in the U.S. by another 18 months. I seem to recall Rubio and others pushing for that sort of action. More recently, I've seen that DHS under Biden announced another extension. I do not know if the Trump Admin has directly reversed that yet and/or what policy changes have already been made to date. Obviously, the Venezuelan population in Florida is considerable - without even getting to Cubans who have come to Florida after the wet foot/dry foot policy ended years back.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/19/trump-venezuela-temporary-legal-status-460524

    DHS to Extend Temporary Protected Status for Venezuela | Homeland Security
     
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  8. VAg8r1

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    Trump and Homan claim that the deportations are focusing on criminal illegal aliens yet the only crime committed by almost 50 percent of those being deported is illegal presence in the US. They haven't committed any other crimes.
    Trump Team Focuses Deportations On Immigration Numbers, Not Criminals
    This emphasis on numbers over criminals was predicted in an earlier article: “A top priority for U.S. officials involved in the Trump administration’s deportation efforts will likely be to generate large numbers. Analysts expect efforts at targeting criminals or convicting a business owner in a workplace raid will be secondary to the bureaucratic goal of driving up deportation numbers.” (Stuart Anderson, Forbes, January 20, 2025)
     
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  9. g8orbill

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    being focuses on the criminal aliens is what they are doing, but Homan himself said if they came across a non criminal illegal alien they would be deported as well - I would like to see all the illegals go
     
  10. ColoradoNoVaGator

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    In other words, if you're a "non-criminal" illegal alien (oxymoron) you should probably avoid hanging out with the "real" criminal illegal aliens.

    works for me, and probably works for the majority of Americans not posting on THFSG
     
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  11. Norcaligator

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    Logical fallacy.

    Do you think the people who were brought to the US involuntarily as slaves tried to get here to work and make a living?

    Or is your concern that migrant workers are underpaid?
     
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  12. exiledgator

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    Does that include going to work or sending your kids to school?
     
  13. ColoradoNoVaGator

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    yes

    next question.
     
  14. gtr2x

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    Ironically, the southern Dems of 1828 are now Pubs in 2025. Bad analogy.
     
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  15. gator_jo

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    So White House staffers should avoid going to work? Cool.
     
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  16. G8trGr8t

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    deported because confessed to trespassing 15 years zgo-- hardened violent criminals

    and the cult bought it, hook line and sinker - violent criminals..smdh

    personally hope they keep driving it home and alienating the latin community and crushing ag. they voted for it, give it to them. i can handle the price increase if it breaks the cult delusions
     
  17. VAg8r1

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    So you think that individuals who are residing in the US and working at productive jobs but happen to be undocumented represent the same threat as undocumented persons who have committed serious crimes? Similarly, do you believe that country will be better off as the result of their deportation?
     
  18. OklahomaGator

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    I think the "worst first" practice is the best. Deport the hard criminals, gang members and drug pushers first.
     
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  19. AzCatFan

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    Ironically, with freed slaves, many stayed in the south and continued to pick cotton. Only as free men, getting paid usually with wages from crop sharing. But as free persons, they could leave. And their kids were afforded an education, which opened up additional opportunities. Still, the cotton and other crops in the south still needed to be picked.

    With current immigrants, they are already free to leave, but without documentation, they are more likely to be oppressed, as they have limited legal recourse. What can change this? A guest worker program like the Gang of 8 suggested. It would give the immigrants legal protections and allow them to go to work, and their kids to school without worry. They would still likely be the labor picking the crops, building our houses, and changing bed pans in senior homes, but at least if they are being oppressed on some level, they could complain to authorities without the worry of being deported.
     
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