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Trump's plan for mass deportations

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Nov 8, 2024.

  1. ColoradoNoVaGator

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    so does that mean we shouldn't attempt to control it?
     
  2. AzCatFan

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    Allow those working to legally sign up for a guest visa, and we'll know more about rise here. And if they don't sign up and aren't full time students and capable of working, then they become eligible to be deported.
     
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  3. mdgator05

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    Well, I am sure if we add a bunch more bureaucracy there, that will happen (notwithstanding how the massive increase in bureaucracy over the last 30 years involving immigration and border control apparently hasn't, according to you).
     
  4. gator_jo

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    I at least got one to admit that he doesn't care that the guy he voted for has absolutely no plan to fix the problem. He just wants to see things "broken."

    I guess, ya know, because things are so so VERY bad in the United States......and it's all the fault of those bad BAD ole immigrants.

    And so since it's all so bad, we need to break everything.



    #TRUMPYDISTOPIA
     
  5. ColoradoNoVaGator

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    you were acting normal for a few minutes there.
     
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  6. AzCatFan

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    The majority of people crossing do so to better their lives. That's why most cross at official areas and request asylum. Streamline this process and allow the migrants to request a guest visa, we can know who is coming in and allow then to work legally in the US.

    Remove those just looking to work in the US from entering illegally, and who is still coming illegally? Only those we don't want here. And they'd be easier to catch without all the extra traffic.

    Again, the most secure our border has been had been during the Bracero years.
     
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  7. gator_jo

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    Oh, I'm very normal.

    There just reaches a point where I have difficulty respecting the ideas of people who consciously acknowledge that the person they support is actually NOT doing what they believe is the solution.....

    ......yet they somehow rationalize believing that he's solving the problem.

    You got conned man. Again. Shouldn't take you 4 more years to realize it.



    Is there some psychological condition where people who are conned find it uncomfortable or unpleasant to admit it? Something similar to China Syndrome?
     
  8. ColoradoNoVaGator

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    a) you're far from normal. Your unhinged, repetitive, copy/post posting clearly illustrates that. I'm quite sure you're an embarrassment to most on the left here.

    b) not conned. The brick has gone right through the window. Again. And you're too unaware to realize that folks like you are evidence of that.
     
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  9. toprowgator

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    And I read a year or so back that it is estimated that 85% will not qualify for asylum. Regardless, what stupid country allows 15+ million people (with no end in sight if the dems were still in power) to flood their country and then hang out until probably being denied. This is all by design, sir.
     
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  10. mdgator05

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    It is almost as if the pretense of legality isn't the primary concern here. Strange that you would declare people here legally to be illegal because you don't like the law.

    I like the last line. What is it that you are alluding to with that line?
     
  11. toprowgator

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    You're naive if you think that there aren't millions here that we know nothing about.

    I stated why the dems are for the open border a few posts back.
     
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  12. mdgator05

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    Interesting. So we have millions hiding. Wouldn't that make the situation worse in terms of labor supply? We have been in a dramatic labor shortage even with this mysterious unseen "millions?"

    Not really. You are just launching varying conspiratorial allusions.
     
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  13. ridgetop

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    It’s a swinging pendulum. And it always will be. Dems don’t do nearly enough to limit illegal immigrant migration into the is. Cons will do too much and limit those that would come legally.
    Personally…
    I’d require Everify from all employers. Employers know they are hiring illegals.. some are harboring and abetting as well.
    Start by rounding up all the violent criminals here illegally.. and it’s clear the govt knows where many actually are.. then go after the employers and hit them with big fines.
    Make the visa application easier and smoother. As for asylum.. they wait in Mexico.. or the first stable country they come to and apply at the Embassy. Not on US soil.
     
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  14. G8trGr8t

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    How many work visas were available last year?
     
  15. gator_jo

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    Our country does. Has for probably 70+ years.

    And yes, it's by design. Because business wants it that way and they control both parties.

    Only a fool thinks Trump will actually try to change things. (Hint : why didn't he the first time?)

    He's only trying to pick a fight and put on a show so his uninformed cult stays engaged.

    Hard to imagine any grown adults not having this figured out by now.
     
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  16. toprowgator

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    We have never had the unprocessed numbers coming in that we have now. Stop lying.
     
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  17. mdgator05

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    Anybody applying for asylum is processed...
     
  18. toprowgator

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    So you're saying the Biden administration accepted murderers and rapists knowingly?
     
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  19. mdgator05

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    A very small number as applying for asylum has substantial benefits. There is a pretty heavy move of immigrants into the asylum pathway, even with the probability of denial.

    As to your second sentence, it is largely false. As a reminder, the numbers to which you are alluding consisted primarily of people in prison for crimes they committed here and the vast majority of the people in those numbers arrived well before the Biden Administration. They were generally not people who had been convicted of murder or rape prior to arrival. We have a large number of them because of the very long prison sentences (up to and including the remainder of their life) that these folks need to stay in prison.
     
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  20. toprowgator

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    We know for a fact that bad actors crossed over that border and you claimed earlier that we knew who had crossed. So why did we let them in?