Trump's plan for mass deportations

I am expecting him to use the NG, in conjunction with local police authorities- will there be some police authorities who will buck him- absolutely. It is going to be a fight in the blue states for sure- but in the big cities of the red states as well. Will it get ugly- absolutely. He has 4 years with no option of reelection so I am sure he will go all out

 

If immigration from the 3rd world is so great the people of Europe must be pretty happy with it. Reality: The countries Europe once colonized are colonizing them. Citizens who voice their opposition to the influx are going to jail.

Yes terrorists prefer to come in legally but many do not. Your numbers are as ridiculous as your estimate that <100people died from the Covid vax. The clock is still running on those numbers. I predict the number of people who will die/have their lives shortened will be well over 100 million.

Here's an article that challenges the numbers you presented on terrorists coming into the US:

"Border Patrol agents apprehended a total of 367 individuals at the southern and northern borders between fiscal years 2021 and 2024 whose names appeared on the terror watch list, according to the latest data released by Customs and Border Protection (CBP). The number marks a roughly 2,521% increase from the 14 suspected terrorists caught between ports of entry in fiscal years 2017 to 2020. (RELATED: EXCLUSIVE: Border Patrol Released More Than 30,000 Illegal Migrants Flagged As Security Risks In Last 15 Months)"

 

Think everyone philosophically agrees with these points. But in practice, everyone literally benefits, financially, right or working, from the illegals accepting wages far below market. It’s why we can afford basic things like produce. That’s not to say it’s right, again, but it is reality.

Perhaps Congress can get together and creatively solve the issue, like creating farms where immigrants can temporarily be housed, fed, medically cared for, and be paid a small wage, all with a legal temporary lawful right to be here. Creative people working together to find solutions sounds like a good start to me.

 

The dems want the illegals for the lower class votes mostly go to dems, so do you really thin the dems in Congress are going to give that up

 

I can appreciate that YOU don’t care, and it definitely isn’t your problem to care how it takes place. But SOMEONE needs to care about the reality of the logistical and legal costs to find, roundup, house, and then find a new host country, and then transport them to the new country.

It’s all fun and games to shouter rhetoric during a campaign. Now he needs to execute on the promise, and I cannot envision any viable path for him to do it.

And neither do you.

My best guess is that we will see large,publicized round-ups, for a period of time over several months, where tens of thousands of people are evicted. And slowly the publicity will decline and our short-term memory population will be satiated, and nothing of any real substance will be accomplished.

 

well if you use flights.google.com it shows you the fare for each day of the month. None of them are close to what expedia quoted you.

 

yes but since we're just making up hypotheticals, no need to worry about mexico agreeing.

 

both funny and true

 

Again, I this is his “plan,” but my point is —forget the politics,ignore red vs blue, just for the moment.

How can he accomplish the apprehension of 30 million people (according to figures), and then find a place to ship em out and then ship em out?!?! It is an unprecedented,staggering, if not impossible logistical nightmare.

 

In Bill's world, illegal immigrants have the right to vote.

Fascinating stuff, really.

 

It's probably rational to assume this is a typo that should be "millions."

That said, might you be that rare (nonexistent?) Trump supporter who can posit the most rudimentary idea of how the jobs would be filled, should appx 8-9 million employed undocumented immigrants be deported?

 

My post was edited. There aren't trillions of jobs. But there are trillions in dollars that would be lost if all undocumented immigrants were deported.

As for Visas, HB1 are for skilled labor. These are those who generally have a college degree. They aren't coming here to pick crops, work in construction, or turn over hotel rooms. They do jobs Trump doesn't consider to be "black jobs."

And even if they did, the limit when you include the 20k extra visas for those with a Masters degree or higher is only 85k a year. We have over 8 million undocumented in the workforce. It would take decades to replace all undocumented labor with legal immigrants.

 

Common phenomenon. Often called "Bootleggers and Baptists" off of an initial metaphor utilized by an economist. The idea was that there are two groups who support restrictions on alcohol sales. Baptists support them because they think that restricting alcohol will make the world a better place. Bootleggers support them because it lowers their competition and leads to increased prices. The bootleggers don't really fear enforcement, as they know that more money will allow them to more easily corrupt law enforcement officials.

We are seeing a similar dynamic develop in immigration. We have spent the past decades thinking that we could enforce our way to lower immigration. We spend about 10x as much as we used to spend on enforcement. We have spent billions and billions on infrastructure on the border. We have hired thousands of additional agents. And yet, the border is "open." How? Because a large illegal industry has been built. The illegal businesses have a set of negative externalities that could be avoided with smarter immigration policy, where markets determine the level of US immigration rather than central planning. Instead, we are doubling down on enforcement, increasing those businesses' profits and making them even more powerful.

One of the more interesting parts of this is how convinced the "Baptists" are that their policies are hurting the "Bootleggers," when, in reality, they are allies that help build the "Bootlegger" business.

 

well certainly they do not have the right to vote, but the dems are going to try and give them the right to vote so they have a permanent underclass who will always vote dem

 

It is interesting that you suppose that there is a "permanent underclass" amongst immigrants. What is the basis for this assumption? That prior immigrant groups all stayed poor generation-by-generation?

 

What would Jesus do

 

A very large percentage of the underclass votes republican. Appx 50% of those reporting less than $30k in income voted for the orange grifter.
News flash..unless the dems control 2/3 of the Senate they can't give voting rights to anyone. Tired boogeyman

 

None so blind as those that refuse to see

 

Too wordy
Fake news...tested, proven successful argument

 

Oh.

Do you think this is likely?