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  1. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    sad..

    in the land of the free

    donald j trump and maga will go down as a stain in the history of this nation

    Law Firms Delete Mentions of Mueller Investigation

    Starting in October as the president election neared, four major law firms began removing references on their websites to work their lawyers had done on special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian influence and possible coordination with Donald Trump's campaign. Bloomberg Law found the deletions from the lawyers' biographies by analyzing current and archived firm web pages. Trump had promised to go after lawyers and the firms that worked against him.

    Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Garrison & Wharton, one of the four firms, took out a reference to Mueller's work in L. Rush Atkinson's biography on March 1, two weeks before Trump issued an executive order restricting the firm's government access. The firm thenreached a deal with Trump that calls for it to provide $40 million in free legal services in support of the president's agenda. Atkinson had been an assistant special counsel to Mueller before joining the firm last year.
     
  2. G8trGr8t

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    turn the Q/Maga conspiracy nuts loose to hound members of legal firms that oppose them

    'This needs to stop now': Elon Musk and MAGA 'take aim' at another huge law firm - Raw Story

    Over the weekend, Trump-pardoned conservative provocateur Dinesh D'Souza lobbed some accusations against Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP. "Skadden Arps is the firm engaged in systematic lawfare against '2000 Mules' They have a army of 17 attorneys working pro-bono against me. I have 2 lawyers," according to D'Souza. "The Left's game is to ruin us through protracted, costly litigation."
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    Popular MAGA influencer AwakenedOutlaw added, "It's probably time for an army of people online to dig into EVERYTHING and EVERYONE at Skadden, Arps."

    "There are millions of us. Let's consider turning the tables on 'em," they added.

    The new development was flagged by legal analyst Anna Bower, who said, "Elon Musk takes aim at Skadden Arps over the firm’s pro bono work in litigation against '2000 Mules' producer Dinesh D’Souza."
     
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  3. G8trGr8t

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    how can this happen in America

    this is disturbing on so many levels if this is how our gubmnt is going to function going forward.

    any dem that gets into office will need to do this same thing to all firms who kowtowed to this administration. if there are no rules or no standards than that is the game that must be played.

    Is our congress going to stand by and let this administration destroy the constitutional rights so many have fought and died for?

    note this is one paragraph in the link

    Read the email Paul Weiss Chairman Brad Karp sent to staff after striking a deal with Trump: 'Clients perceived our firm as being persona non grata'

    Late in the evening of Friday, March 14, the President issued an executive order targeting our firm. Since then, we have been facing an unprecedented threat to our firm unlike anything since Samuel Weiss first hung out a shingle in downtown Manhattan on April 1, 1875—almost exactly 150 years ago_Only several days ago, our firm faced an existential crisis. The executive order could easily have destroyed our firm. It brought the full weight of the government down on our firm, our people, and our clients. In particular, it threatened our clients with the loss of their government contracts, and the loss of access to the government, if they continued to use the firm as their lawyers. And in an obvious effort to target all of you as well as the firm, it raised the specter that the government would not hire our employees. We were hopeful that the legal industry would rally to our side, even though it had not done so in response to executive orders targeting other firms. We had tried to persuade other firms to come out in public support of Covington and Perkins Coie. And we waited for firms to support us in the wake of the President's executive order targeting Paul, Weiss. Disappointingly, far from support, we learned that certain other firms were seeking to exploit our vulnerabilities by aggressively soliciting our clients and recruiting our attorneys. We initially prepared to challenge the executive order in court, and a team of Paul, Weiss attorneys prepared a lawsuit in the finest traditions of the firm. But it became clear that, even if we were successful in initially enjoining the executive order in litigation, it would not solve the fundamental problem, which was that clients perceived our firm as being persona non grata with the Administration. We could prevent the executive order from taking effect, but we couldn't erase it. Clients had told us that they were not going to be able to stay with us, even though they wanted to. It was very likely that our firm would not be able to survive a protracted dispute with the Administration. At the same time, we learned that the Administration might be willing to reach a resolution with us. So, working with our outside counsel, we did exactly what we advise our clients to do in "bet the company" litigation every day: we talked with the Administration to see if we could achieve a lasting settlement that would not require us to compromise our core values and fundamental principles.In a matter of days, we were able to negotiate such a resolution. That resolution, the terms of which I shared with all of you on Thursday evening, had three primary components. First, we reiterated our commitment to viewpoint diversity, including in recruiting and in the intake of new matters. Second, while retaining our longstanding commitment to diversity in all of its forms, we agreed that we would follow the law with respect to our employment practices. And third, we agreed to commit $10 million per year over the next four years in pro bono time in three areas in which we are already doing significant work: assisting our Nation's veterans, countering anti-Semitism, and promoting the fairness of the justice system.To be clear, and to clarify misinformation perpetuated from various media sources, the Administration is not dictating what matters we take on, approving our matters, or anything like that. We obviously would not, and could not ethically, have agreed to that. Instead, we have agreed to commit substantial pro bono resources, in addition to the $130+ million we already commit annually, in areas of shared interest. We will continue all of the existing pro bono work we already do and will continue in our longstanding role as a leader of the private bar in the pro bono and public interest sphere. This existential crisis required the leadership of our law firm to make incredibly difficult decisions under extraordinary time pressure. In making those decisions, we were guided by two fundamental principles. First and foremost, we were guided by our obligation to protect our clients' interests. As I mentioned earlier, we concluded that even a victory in litigation would not be sufficient to do so, because our firm would still be perceived as persona non grata with the Administration. We simply could not practice law in the Paul, Weiss way if we were still subject to the executive order. This resolution was unambiguously in our clients' best interests. Equally important, we were guided by our fiduciary duty to all of you—by our obligation, as stewards of the firm, to protect the livelihoods of the 2,500 lawyers and non-legal professionals who work at Paul, Weiss. That consideration—the need to ensure, above all, that our firm would survive—weighed extremely heavily on all of us, and especially on me, as the leader of the firm.In today's political environment, it is unsurprising that the announcement that we have negotiated a resolution with the Administration, rather than fighting it in court, has generated intense feelings across the firm and indeed across the entire legal and broader community. As is often the case in situations like this, the extensive media coverage and social media commentary surrounding recent events has taken on a life of its own, with its own factual narrative and its own momentum. The coverage has been decidedly unhelpful, piecemeal, and incorrect in many fundamental respects. But it is not particularly constructive for any of us involved to debate factual discrepancies. Instead, what is most important is to look to the future. In this regard, I want to provide some clarity and perspective as we move forward.First, and most important, we have quickly solved a seemingly intractable problem and removed a cloud of uncertainty that was hanging over our law firm. Our clients have been overwhelmingly supportive, expressing relief at the resolution of this situation and the fact that, as the President publicly has acknowledged, our firm now has an engaged and constructive relationship with this Administration. Thousands of clients have reached out directly to express their continued confidence in Paul, Weiss and their appreciation for our unwavering dedication to their matters throughout this period and our ability to quickly secure a resolution that will redound to their benefit. Even those who have expressed personal disappointment that we didn't fight the Administration have said they fully appreciate what was at stake for our law firm and respect our decision. Second, the resolution we reached with the Administration will have no effect on our work and our shared culture and values. The core of who we are and what we stand for is and will remain unchanged. To that end, we will continue our proud, century-long legacy of courageously standing up for fundamental rights and liberties, for fairness in the justice system, and for our society's most vulnerable individuals. That commitment is woven into our DNA; it was and will never be subject to negotiation or compromise.Third, we will continue to support each of you in your career journey, providing you with the world's best training and opportunities to advance and thrive in your field. Above all, we will continue to be a place where we enjoy working together; where we respect each other; where we can practice law at the highest levels of excellence.I know many of you are uncomfortable that we entered into any sort of resolution at all. That is completely understandable. There was no right answer to the predicament in which we found ourselves. All of us have opinions about what is going on right now in America. This is an incredibly consequential moment for our country. It is very easy for commentators to judge our actions from the sidelines. But no one in the wider world can appreciate how stressful it is to confront an executive order like this until one is directed at you.I want to close by expressing my profound gratitude to each of you. Since March 14, we have seen Paul, Weiss at its very best, supporting each other in the face of an unprecedented threat. You have demonstrated, once again, the extraordinary caliber of our Paul, Weiss community. Your professionalism, your dedication to our clients, your support for one another, and your commitment to our firm have been nothing short of remarkable under these impossibly challenging circumstances. I am confident that, just as we have in past crises, we will get through this together and become even stronger and more resilient as a community.To that end, my door is open to you as we navigate next steps, as are the doors of firm leadership. This has been a deeply painful experience for me and for the other leaders of the firm. I know it has been a profoundly difficult period for many of you. Since March 14, we have been weathering a terrible storm. But I know that we will get through this storm, and that we will continue to uphold the proud traditions that have defined Paul, Weiss for the last 150 years. I am so thankful for each and every one of you, and for all that you do every day for this very special place and for our broader communities.Brad

    Brad S. Karp | Chairman
     
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  4. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    guess the gag order doesn't apply to potus

    can you iamgine being such a petty human being than as potus there is nothing mor importan than attacking a young woman who is th edaughter of a judge you don't like

    MAGA, does this make you proud of your choice?

    some animals are more equal than others

    so glad the economy is humming and we have world peace so we can focus on important stuff

    Trump apparently breaks gag order as he resumes attack on judge's family: 'Made millions'

    President Donald Trump resumed his attacks on the daughter of a New York judge who oversaw his criminal trial — in spite of a gag order that was never officially lifted.

    The president was prohibited from commenting publicly about the prosecution team that secured his conviction on 34 felony counts, as well as court staffers and their families— including the daughter of Judge Juan Merchan, who Trump attacked early Monday in a swipe against another judge who tried to block immigrant deportations.

    "This Judge is almost as conflicted (actually, not even close!) as the Judge whose daughter made Millions of Dollars representing Biden/Harris against me, while her father presided over a Fake Case against me, and refused to RECUSE himself," Trump posted shortly after midnight on Truth Social. "He should be disbarred! Crooked Alvin Bragg was the D.A. in the case. They put me under a GAG ORDER so that I could not talk about it. Miscarriage of Justice!!!
     
  5. G8trGr8t

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    longtime staunchly conservative judicial voice speaks up. He is clear in his convictions..another RINO to MAGA

    'Stunning frontal assault': Legal conservative says 'enough' to Trump

    Former federal Judge J. Michael Luttig, now 70, has been a prominent figure in the conservative legal movement for decades. After serving as an associate White House counsel for Reagan Administration, Luttig was appointed to the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals by President George H.W. Bush appointed in 1991 and stayed there until 2006.

    "President Trump has wasted no time in his second term in declaring war on the nation's federal judiciary, the country's legal profession and the rule of law," Luttig warns. "He has provoked a constitutional crisis with his stunning frontal assault on the third branch of government and the American system of justice. The casualty could well be the constitutional democracy Americans fought for in the Revolutionary War against the British monarchy 250 years ago."

    "President Trump has wasted no time in his second term in declaring war on the nation's federal judiciary, the country's legal profession and the rule of law," Luttig warns. "He has provoked a constitutional crisis with his stunning frontal assault on the third branch of government and the American system of justice. The casualty could well be the constitutional democracy Americans fought for in the Revolutionary War against the British monarchy 250 years ago."

    Luttig continues, "Mr. Trump has yearned for this war against the federal judiciary and the rule of law since his first term in office. He promised to exact retribution against America's justice system for what he has long mistakenly believed is the federal government's partisan 'weaponization' against him…. But unless Mr. Trump immediately turns an about-face and beats a fast retreat, not only will he plunge the nation deeper into constitutional crisis, which he appears fully willing to do, he will also find himself increasingly hobbled even before his already vanishing political honeymoon is over."
     
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    The irony of a renowned fraudster crying about lawyers …
     
  7. gaterzfan

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    lol

    Trump Leaves Presidency To Become Even More Powerful District Court Judge

    WASHINGTON, D.C. — President Donald Trump announced this week that he was leaving office in order to take an even more powerful position as a U.S. District Court judge.

    After ascending to the presidency twice in the last decade, Trump set his sights on the next rung up the political ladder, with a spot in the federal judiciary proving him with far more authority to rule the nation.

    "I love being president. I'm great at it. The best our country has ever had, many people say," Trump told the press. "But after seeing how much power those U.S. District Court judges have, I've decided to resign the presidency and join the judiciary. They seem to really be able to do anything they want."

    Trump announced the move after a series of sweeping rulings from judges over the last several weeks, which greatly limited the breadth of the executive branch's powers. Trump said he's been eyeing the move for a while and thinks he'd be a great fit as he's already well-versed in the legal system.
     
  8. G8trGr8t

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    one for the good guys......don't know why it has taken this long

    Judges Block Trump Orders Aimed at Law Firms Linked to Mueller Probe

    That’s the heart of a new ruling by a federal judge. This ruling blocks important parts of an executive order by President Donald Trump that specifically targeted the law firms Jenner & Block and WilmerHale. The decision, made by Judge Richard Leon late Friday, supports the First Amendment rights of the firms and their clients, which were previously threatened by the order. Trump’s orders specifically focused these companies because of their work in the political realm and as participants in the Mueller investigation.

    Trump followed through by issuing other executive orders to put Jenner & Block and WilmerHale out of business. He focused on these firms in particular because they had hired veterans of the Mueller probe. These injunctions were meant to prevent lawyers from the firm WilmerHale from passing through security to federal buildings. They then attempted to punish the firm’s clients with government contracts.

    Judge Leon’s late Friday order blocks these retaliatory measures, affirming the firms’ right to legal advocacy. The order places a temporary halt on key components of Trump’s directive. This order requires federal agencies to terminate existing contracts with Jenner & Block and its clients, as well as barring the firm from access to federal officials and buildings.

    There is no doubt this retaliatory action chills speech and legal advocacy, and that is qualified as a constitutional harm,” – Judge Richard Leon
     
  9. G8trGr8t

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    if he wanted to decide what is legal or not, he should've went to law school.

    or are judges supposed to decide what is legal or not in your world?

    does that make a judge more powerful than someone that can launch a nuclear attack? another stupid meme with no intelligent thought behind it, perfect for the target audience