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::: Trump v. Harris Debate Thread, Tue. at 9pm on ABC

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by okeechobee, Sep 9, 2024.

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  1. Sep 13, 2024 #1101
    okeechobee

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    We know what Trump will do, because he passed the larger standard deduction and he has vowed to extend it. Harris has not committed to extending that standard deduction, as far as I know. She has used a bunch of word salads that dance around the topic, which usually means she is not going to. At the very least, she could issue a clarification.
     
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  2. Sep 13, 2024 #1102
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    Let them expire? You mean get the dems in Congress to propose and then pass legislation to repeal them, right? I mean, in 2017 the GOP held both houses of Congress with Trump at the helm. Expire? Maybe some of the crumbs for us peons expire, but the meat and ‘taters are permanent, right?
     
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    Trump lied about Dems wanting abortions up to 9th month including after birth, animals being eaten by Haitians , and so many other things where she didn’t even get a chance to respond because the mods didn’t let her, yet he talked for 5 min more than she did. He won’t debate again and it’s obvious why. She beat him like a drum.
     
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  4. Sep 13, 2024 #1104
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    She's not going to win.
     
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  5. Sep 13, 2024 #1105
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    say it with me, comrade. Madame President. Rolls right off the tongue.
     
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  6. Sep 13, 2024 #1106
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    From the City of Springfield's website:

    Immigration FAQs | City of Springfield Ohio Official Website
     
  7. Sep 13, 2024 #1107
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    Marha's Vineyard about melted down over 50 Venezuelan Asylum seekers...but Spingfield uh-Hiya is racist bitches for registering grievances over 15,000 Haitians against a population of 60,000.
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  8. Sep 13, 2024 #1108
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    Uh, no. Martha's Vineyard didn't melt down and Springfield isn't racist.
     
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  9. Sep 13, 2024 #1109
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    Idk...dead and forged votes count the same as living and honest, in places like Chicago, Philly, Phoenix, Atlanta... strategic concentrations where a few thousand fudged ballots can nullify out state votes, and flip their respective states...

    :ninja3:
     
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  10. Sep 13, 2024 #1110
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    Sure. All MV did, was swiftly export their asses in a NY minute, while the Left pitched hissy fits about the inhumanity of daring to fly these poor souls to such a nice place...

    As for Springfield/racist? Guess I'll take your word for it, since I'm clearly out of yalls Lefty circle jerk echo chamber.

    Just educated guessing on yalls past reactions/rationalizations/ attack strategies...
     
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  11. Sep 13, 2024 #1111
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    Funny how you completely overlooked all of the arrests from people voting Republican. Look no further than the villages. Florida is filled with right wing voter fraud.
     
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    It was the Massachusetts state government that relocated the immigrants (who were legal by the way) to a facility on a military base better able to accommodate them. The residents of Martha's Vineyard actually did their best to welcome the migrants even though the town had no advance notice of their arrival. I assume that your "knowledge" of the situation is based on what you've reading on the Internet or watching on Fox News or Newsmax. As far as Springfield, Ohio is concerned the town actually welcomed the Haitians. To the extent there is negative reaction it's from a small number of racist nutcakes ginned up by the former president, his trusty sidekick JD Vance and the right-wing media.
    https://www.npr.org/2022/09/16/1123521033/marthas-vineyard-migrants-sent-to-cape-cod
    Authorities in Massachusetts are moving the dozens of migrants who arrived earlier this week in Martha's Vineyard to Cape Cod. The office for Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker announced Friday that the state's emergency management agency relocated the migrants to Joint Base Cape Cod. There, the state will provide shelter, food and other essential services, Baker said.
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    Springfield seeks to be immigrant friendly city
     
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  13. Sep 13, 2024 #1113
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    This is what Rob Rue, mayor of Springfield, OH told Chris Cuomo last night in an interview on NewsNation:

    Rue went on to say that Springfield — a predominantly white, blue-collar city of about 60,000 — desperately needed help from the federal government in order to cope with its ongoing migrant crisis.

    “We have been dealing with an infrastructure strain due to this immigration influx,” he said, referring to the roughly 20,000 Haitian migrants who have flooded into the city in just a few years.

    “Our safety services are overwhelmed. Our hospitals are overwhelmed. Our school systems overwhelmed.”

    These are asylum seekers who illegally crossed the border and the federal government moved them to Springfield. Towns of this size don't just happen upon 20,000 immigrants from one country overnight. You are either woefully misinformed or a dullard. Why do you think the Ohio attorney general is suing the Feds for dumping migrants on Ohio towns? This would be why. While the mayor denied these migrants are eating cats, he wasn't shy to point out they are causing a lot of problems in the city. Some worse than cats being eaten, frankly.
     
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  14. Sep 13, 2024 #1114
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    Ahhhhh...."advance notice"...

    That's the key huh...

    Did Springfield get "advance notice" of thec15,000 IL-legals they got?

    Lol!
     
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    All of the betting markets and current polls say you're probably wrong. We'll see.
     
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    Yeah, that big 1 point lead she has on Polymarket. Don't know how Trump is ever going to overcome that.
     
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    Immigrants with Temporary Protected Status aren't illegal. The overwhelming majority of the 15,000 have legal status and have moved into the city over a period of years.
    City officials said the immigrants have been traveling to Springfield since 2014 after the city launched a “Welcome Springfield” campaign to boost its economy. Most of the migrants over the last five years are from Haiti, which is currently seeing a significant period of civil unrest.​
    https://www.wdtn.com/as-seen-on-2-news/call-for-federal-aid-puts-springfield-into-national-spotlight/

    You think the Cubans that ended up in Miami should have been shipped back to Cuba? Just asking.
     
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    RFK Jr flipped it, debate flipped it back. The closer we get to the actual date, the more locked in the outcome becomes.
     
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