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Trump safe after gunshots in his vicinity at golf course; FBI investigating assassination attempt

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by okeechobee, Sep 15, 2024.

  1. gator_jo

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    LOL, sure it’s meaningless. I was hopeful at least some on the left would accept that the rhetoric from their side is contributing to these issues. I know the right is complicit as well but when you can’t admit it at all it tells me all I need to know about you.
     
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  3. slayerxing

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    Literally this entire thread is several people claiming aggrieved victim status (or much worse) because of one psycho with a gun who may or may not be politically left of center.

    literally the entire world would be well served to tone down the rhetoric a notch. But honestly these complaints from the right fall so flat when the overwhelmingly popular Republican nominee for president of the United States says insane nutty shit like criminals, rapists, and people from insane asylums are coming illegally to the United States to rape us and eat our dogs. On top of a bunch of other crazy things like repeatedly pushing an obvious lie about elections being stolen, etc.

    So to answer the question - yes - all parties should tone down the rhetoric
     
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  4. gator_lawyer

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    He hasn't even committed a crime. Shall not be infringed.
     
  5. okeechobee

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    I tend to agree with the quoted part. How do you feel about Biden's call for the same after the 1st assassination attempt on President Trump's life? Do you think it should have lasted for more than 36 hours before Democrats (including Biden) went right back to the personal attacks on Trump? Do you think the Democrats heeded their own calls for reducing the rhetoric when they insulted President Trump over 200 times at the DNC? Or do you think they should have followed President Trump's example and refrained from making their entire convention a condemnation of one individual?

    You see, I notice you tend to side with the left and I see your words above, but your own party lies to us when they speak the same. They never had any intentions of softening the rhetoric and they've been targeting President Trump forever. Do you think your party might want to try honoring their words and living up to their own stated calls for reducing the venom?
     
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  6. GatorBen

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    There actually may be an interesting argument as to the constitutionality of 922(k) (the obliterated serial number statute), at least if you assume the Bruen framework applies. A Clinton-appointed district judge in West Virginia actually found 922(k) unconstitutional on the basis that serial numbers didn’t appear on firearms at all until the 1860s and weren’t legally required on most firearms until the 1968 GCA so there couldn’t be a historical analogue. En banc Fourth reversed on the basis that firearms with serial numbers removed aren’t in common lawful use because they reasoned that no one other than a criminal would have a need for a gun with the serial number removed, which to me seems like a punt (there are legal guns that have never had serial numbers at all in lawful use, and in any event I don’t think “guns with the serial number removed” is really a distinct class of arms).

    That being said, I think the firearms charges here are mostly placeholder charges to keep this guy in jail while they figure out the substantive charges to hit him with.
     
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  7. slayerxing

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    If the dems are so bad then be the change you want to see in the world and tone down the rhetoric.
     
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  8. gator_jo

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  9. okeechobee

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    Well, only one side is getting shot at multiple times right now, so can your side at least live up to the call they themselves made and tone down the rhetoric? Because when Biden goes on TV and asks for everybody to cool their rhetoric and then a few days later Dems are right back on the Trump is Satan train, that doesn't sound like Biden, Harris or the Dems care much at all about anybody's safety but their own. Do you think attacking President Trump over 200 times at your convention was "toning down the rhetoric?" I've already pointed out President Trump and the RNC honored those words by easing off the personal attacks at the RNC. Why didn't the Dems do that at their convention?
     
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  10. slayerxing

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    I stick with my original statement on this issue.
     
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  12. ETGator1

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    Excellent advice. The problem is the left is deaf and insane. The posts here blaming Trump for his two assassination attempts are perfect examples of same.
     
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  13. vaxcardinal

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    I’m thinking if he waited in the bushes for 12 hours he probably didn’t know the tee time
     
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  14. rivergator

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    What? One party criticizing the other party's candidate? Say it ain't so!
     
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    That was just a poke at the lefties and the statement I quoted. Sarcasm for the most part. Not really anything to do with what happened here like you stated above. .
     
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    "Shootings are a fact of life" - J.D. Vance. Welcome to America, baby.
     
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    "There’s an incredible irony that right when he was enduring the worst week of his presidential race, Trump has been handed an election-winning lifeline by another attempt on his life."
    The article ends with that.

    I have zero time for political violence - absolutely none. Left, right, up, down. It's never justified.
    But to suggest a foiled assassination attempt should make him - or anyone - more electable shows just how wrong some have their priorities.
    Fitness for office (as a disclaimer) followed by track record and policy. That's it!

    Voters that can be swayed by the news cycle on anything less, includlng this (no matter how bad), are the problem.
     
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  18. Gator715

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    Depends. Do you want to respond to any statement I made, or are you going to try and create a strawman again?
     
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  19. ETGator1

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    Yeah right, not. Look at what the news has been focusing on since the debate, Ohio dog/cat eating Haitians with 21 foreign initiated bomb threats and the Trump assassinations.

    The democrats will not have a policy debate this close to the election. The 3 on 1 ABC non-debate proved that much. Kamrade Kamala can't stand on her own two feet and talk policy. She can't as her policies are losers with the American people.

    After the Trump second assassination attempt, it was the same ole same ole except zero break in attacking MAGA and Trump. Biden/Harris is at the top of the food chain, and they have now blamed congress for lack of funding for Trump. Hakeem Jefferies within the hour stated MAGA must be stopped. Media is blaming Trump's rhetoric non-stop for his own assassination attempts. The call is out to save our democracy from Trump for the next assassination attempt. Biden/Harris are sorry alright, sorry that Trump isn't dead.

    The acting SS Director and the Palm Beach sheriff sang the same song as in the congressional hearings in the first assassination attempt. It's not like Trump is a sitting president so he can't get more protection. The Director said the second assassination attempt was a success for security when it is the opposite. This type of lack of security is unacceptable. If I were Trump, I'd hire my own security as any security outside of his close personal SS detail cannot be trusted.

    People defending the democrat's dangerous rhetoric which goes beyond criticizing the other candidate are not right-thinking people. Twice in 5 weeks a presidential has been the target of assassination. The response should be demands that higher security be provided. Harris weakly responded on Sunday that violence has no place in America rings hollow as violence is happening against her opponent under her leadership.
     
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  20. ajoseph

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    I sure as hell don’t want someone who gives orders based on the first random thought that pops into the a guy’s head,with no forward thinking or analysis. In other words, Never-Trump!