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Trump pardons 1,500 criminal Jan 6th defendants

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorWon, Jan 20, 2025 at 8:11 PM.

  1. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    He simply converted their sentences from death sentences to life without parole as part of a general policy against the death penalty for non-terrorism cases. Kind of different than letting people out of prison altogether, right?
     
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  2. ovillegator

    ovillegator Premium Member

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    Then you clearly don't know American politics. :cool:
     
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  3. coleg

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    Where's the link to verify?
     
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    Will @1990Gator come back recognize that they made a mistake when they misrepresented what Biden did?
     
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  5. rivergator

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    I don't know Biden's reasons for a lot of those pardons and commutations. At least some seem to me to be a really bad decision. Maybe a lot, I don't know. I obviously haven't studied the entire list.
    But that doesn't excuse Trump's pardon of the J6 people, who were trying to overturn an election so that he could stay in office. That's just wrong.
     
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  6. VAg8r1

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    “We’ll never forget, we’ll never forgive. You can’t get rid of us,” a California chapter of the far-right Proud Boys posted on Telegram.

    the rioters he frequently referred to as “patriots”

    “the indiscriminate release of everyone charged in the riots could embolden extremists and make political violence more common…..It sets a dangerous precedent that political violence is a legitimate tool in American democracy.”

    “You are on notice. This is not going to end well for you,” read an X post from one pardoned rioter addressed to anyone still “attempting to continue to hold my brethren hostage.”

    https://apnews.com/article/trump-pa...t-proud-boys-bdd25aa653ceb2a2db6fd3ef2f9bda6e
     
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  8. vegasfox

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    A lot of these people simply walked thru open doors and walked around on a sight-seeing tour. The people that put them in prison are evil
     
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  9. sierragator

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    Modern day Brownshirts who know they will get a pardon from Trump if the act out. What could possibly go wrong?
     
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  10. PITBOSS

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    This is maga on backing the police….

    “Omg I did so much f---ing s--- rn and got away tell you later," , "Tazzzzed the f--- out of the blue."

    Daniel "D.J." Rodriguez, in a group chat with other rioters.

    “The judge said Rodriguez, 40, was “a one-man army of hate, attacking police and destroying property”

    Jan. 6 rioter accused of attacking Officer Michael Fanone pleads guilty


    Trump gave him a full pardon
     
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  11. VAg8r1

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    One question. Why didn't Trump or one of his subordinates examine the cases individually and limit the pardons/commutations to persons charged with crimes that didn't involve violence? Instead he issued a blanket pardon that included defendants who viciously attacked law enforcement officers as well as the leaders of the failed insurrection. The answer is fairly simple and it wasn't the result of an oversight on the part of Trump, it was intentional. Trump considered all of them his "brownshirts" and rather than distinguishing individuals who committed violent acts from nonviolent defendants Trump intentionally awarded them for their willingness to use violence on his behalf.
     
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  12. ovillegator

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    "Dangerous precedent"?

    That precedent was set by some of the greatest Americans ever --

    Following the American Civil War, President Andrew Johnson issued a blanket pardon to all Confederate soldiers and participants in the rebellion on December 25, 1868, effectively granting full amnesty to all former Confederates, including restoring their civil rights and privileges under the Constitution; this is often referred to as the "general amnesty" or "Proclamation 179" issued by Johnson.

    J6 is over. Biden pardoned the whole committee who went way overboard in charging and over-sentencing far too many people. Trump pardon was oversweeping but so was Biden's.

    Time to put it behind us and move on. They did it on a much bigger issue 160-some years ago. We should follow our forefathers' wisdom.
     
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  13. Gatorrick22

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    Protesting is NOT A CRIME... Burning cities down is a crime.
     
  14. gator_jo

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    Now do assaulting police and injuring hundreds of them. NOT A CRIME? :)


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  15. VAg8r1

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    And violently attacking law enforcement officers is always a crime as is vandalism.
     
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  16. sierragator

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    Because it was done in support of his orange god
     
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  17. coleg

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    Please provide a link as to any persons that were charged and/or sentenced by the J6 committee.
    On the Civil War amnesty, did anyone think they'd incarcerate the adult male population of nine states?
    LOL Andrew Johnson was NOT one of the greatest Americans ever?
     
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  18. gator_jo

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    I'm not so sure. I think there's a pretty decent chance that he replies that the actions in that photo didn't truly happen. IMO the slight-odds favorite is that we get a "FAKE NEWS!!!"

    Well, after the perennial odds leader that he just ignores reality and runs away.
     
  19. gator_jo

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    They did what ?