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Trump pardons 1,500 criminal Jan 6th defendants

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorWon, Jan 20, 2025 at 8:11 PM.

  1. surfn1080

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    Nixon case could be considered that though it’s a weak example of it.
    Carter with the draft dodgers… really.
    No one has gone in and did it with family members and close allies who likely can implicate him in the corruption that we all know exist

    Democrats have Lost the plot and touch with reality. No wonder they got spanked in the election.
     
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  2. channingcrowderhungry

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    You understand your "straight facts" contradict you saying

    A commute is not a pardon. Like not even close. Straight facts.
     
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  3. gator_jo

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    Trump is a very honest man who told the nation that he would pardon the violent criminals who attacked our Capitol and beat the **** out of hundreds of police, as part of a criminal conspiracy to overturn an election.

    Along with his unfaltering love for America, this is why I voted for him - his complete and total honesty.*



    * He also told us he'd end the Ukraine war on Day 1, and that immigrants were eating dogs. Well....at least he really totally loves America!
     
  4. Gatorrick22

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    For murdering TWO cops. And the J6 people went to jail and paid their "debt" to society...FOR NON-MURDER.
     
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  5. coleg

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    Words are just so hard. It's mind bottling. LOL
     
  6. mdgator05

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    What do you think is an appropriate sentence for assaulting cops, often with deadly weapons?
     
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  7. gator_jo

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    You're confusing your clemency cases. And apparently don't understand the difference between "clemency" and "pardon." What a shocking surprise.

    As is the fact that you apparently know none of the details about which you speak, such as that the two people you apparently reference are still incarcerated for life.
     
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  8. BLING

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    Many J6 rioters did serve their time, I’m sure there are hundreds for whom a pardon makes sense for (nonviolent offenders, with no criminal background or extremist ties). I actually would have wanted to see Biden pardon some of these on the way out the door.

    The ones that assaulted police on the other hand largely did not yet serve their punishment.

    That Biden Pardon is an irrelevant deflection. Nothing to do with J6, and if you were honest you’d recall that Trump in his previous term also pardoned murderers (he pardoned a damned war criminal who killed women and children civilians FFS).
     
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  9. channingcrowderhungry

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    Straight Facts
     
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  11. mdgator05

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    Yep, we need tariffs on China, Mexico, and Canada because international drug markets exist to fill American's desire for drugs, but the guy who ran the Amazon of drugs gets a pardon because Bitcoin Bros wanted their fellow Bro out.
     
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  12. gator_jo

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    There's probably a side deal for him to buy a whole lot of Melania Coin.
     
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  13. Tjgators

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    First, 100's of police were not beaten. That is a delusional exaggeration. The police did most of the beating the day of and whime. A very small percentage of the J6ers were violent, and many of them were provoked. There were 100's of Feds stoking the emotions of the J6er, and there were dozens of cops peppering J6ers with rubber bullets/pepper spray who were just standing there. All on video. Then there were 4 people murdered by the police: Benjamin Philip, Rosanne Boyland, Kevin Greeson, and Ashli Babbitt. Boyland was on the ground and hit over and over again by the capitol police in the head. Again, all on video.

    Many of these people who have been in jail for 4 years received no trial. Prior to J6, we saw riots all over the country, burning and looting homes/businesses. None of these criminals have been in jail or ever went to jail. There are J6ers who never went up the steps of the capital and watched what took place. They went to jail. They were fined. The BLM/Antifa rioters were treated completely opposite that the J6ers.

    Here is a very lengthy read with a timeline of that day's events. It's journalism. I'm sorry it doesn't come with crayons, but it does have pictures and video.
    Meet Ray Epps, Part 2: Damning New Details Emerge Exposing Massive Web of Unindicted Operators at the Heart of January 6 - Revolver News.
     
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  14. sierragator

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    I hear pravda is hiring.
     
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  15. gator_jo

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    LOL. Your post deserves nothing more.

    Nobody else believes those lies though. :) (well, maybe a few Trumpies do. Sad.)
     
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  16. coleg

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    My goodness, the delusions in this are astonishing. Literally every sentence is a rewrite of the actual truth. Bravo for sinking to heretofore untouched depths of maga fantasy.
     
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  17. mdgator05

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    A terrific example of a Gish Gallop. Basically, make so many ridiculous claims that it makes it impossible to fact check all of it without substantial investment.

    Gish gallop - Wikipedia.

    For example, take a look at the first claim about the number of police beaten. It was 140, which is in the hundreds order of magnitude.

    24 Months Since the January 6 Attack on the Capitol
     
  18. coleg

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    From poster: "Then there were 4 people murdered by the police: Benjamin Philip, Rosanne Boyland, Kevin Greeson, and Ashli Babbitt. Boyland was on the ground and hit over and over again by the capitol police in the head."
    The truth: "Two heart attacks: According to an April release from the Washington, D.C., medical examiner’s office, “Stop the Steal” protesters Kevin Greeson, 55, and Benjamin Phillips, 50, both died of cardiovascular disease, and the manner of death was deemed “natural.” "Greeson, of Athens, Alabama, was participating in the protest outside the Capitol when he suffered a heart attack and died minutes before the first rioters breached the Capitol. "
    "The day after the riot, a D.C. Police Department statement said that Philips, a computer programmer from Ringtown, Pennsylvania, had died due to a “medical emergency.” Like Greeson, the D.C. medical examiner later determined that Philips died naturally of “hypertensive atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease” — heart failure due to high blood pressure.

    A Philadelphia Inquirer story said Philips had organized a caravan of Trump supporters to attend the rally in Washington, but the story states, “There’s no indication Philips himself participated in the raid on the Capitol.”

    "But a month later, the D.C. medical examiner’s office released its conclusion that Boyland had died accidentally of “acute amphetamine intoxication.” According to the Washington Post, “The drug cited in Boyland’s death is addictive and can be prescribed to treat attention-deficit disorder and narcolepsy.”

    Boyland’s sister told the Associated Press that a police detective told the family that Boyland — an avid Trump supporter who subscribed to Q Anon conspiracy theories — had collapsed while standing off to the side in the Capitol rotunda
    The last was Babbitt.

    The poster has truth issues. LOL
     
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  19. VAg8r1

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    This is an article about Boyland's death. She apparently collapsed and was trampled by her fellow J6 protestors.
    Videos Show How Rioter Was Trampled in Stampede at Capitol
    Rosanne Boyland, a 34-year-old Trump supporter from Georgia who died during the attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6, appears to have been killed in a crush of fellow rioters during their attempt to fight through a police line, according to videos reviewed by The Times. Though the videos have circulated widely, Ms. Boyland’s presence in them had gone unnoticed until now, and the manner of her death had previously been unclear. The videos show her body on the ground just outside a door on the Capitol’s west side that was the scene of some of the day’s worst violence.

    One man, who livestreams under the name Villain Report, said in a YouTube video posted to his channel that he saw a woman collapse from asphyxiation inside the tunnel. The man said he tried to feel the woman’s pulse after she was dragged away from the door, but found nothing. A Times review of the videos confirmed that he had been among the men surrounding Boyland’s body. “By the time that they decided to pick the person up and give them to a police officer, she had blue lips and blood was coming out of her nose,” he said on the video. “I don’t think that person will be revived.”
     
  20. channingcrowderhungry

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    Funny you said that. Because I started a reply earlier and was like, "nah, dispelling literally all this isn't worth my time."