Trump orders all federal DEI employees placed on paid leave

Again, it doesn't prove anything. Another article from 2020 and the rest just list companies that follow these protocols. There's nothing here that speaks to a trend in the greater business community, just cherry-picked articles that aren't even relevant to today anyway.

Look, I don't know why they hired that white woman instead of you, but your antidotal situation isn't proof of some growing trend. If anything, that trend has been curtailed dramatically in the 5 years since that article was published to the point where it looks like it's pretty much done.

Not really sure what point you're trying to make here.

 

Yes, and they dont announce they are hiring more black people lol. All their trainings are about compliance with laws, mostly about equal opportunity and not discouraging applicants so they dont get sued for violating FCRA or whatever. The others are often complying with anti-terrorism stuff when it comes to money laundering and such.

 

Okay, and. . . . .?

 

But you know for a fact they are intentionally hiring more black people, etc., right?

 

He knows. Just trying to argue

 

I.E. A LOT of corporate/HR gobbledygook.

 

That's all. Just acknowledging that AA/DEI has actually been happening over the last few decades. Some seem to want to support DEI but deny that it actually affects hiring/promotion.

 

So what? They're free to do what they want. That's always been my position on AA. If you want to right the wrongs of the past by hiring more black people, have at it! But don't virtue signal and look for backslaps. Just do it and STFU about it.

 

All their CEOs have been white guys as long as I can remember. Whatever they are doing, the face of the company in the corporate videos is a white guy. Now the national advertising? Definitely less white guys. This is how it works basically.

 

Who? You can't separate the two.

Again, you MAGA guys seem to have a lot of arguments with things in your head that don't actually exist in reality. I don't know a single supporter of DEI who doesn't see hiring practices as one of if not THE key component in DEI. If they support DEI, then they support DEI hiring practices. There's literally no parsing the two as they're connected at the hip.

 

Like all things corporate, utterly hollow.

 

I am not saying that some liberal judge won't give out a temp order to stop this but from everything I have read Trump has a team of attorneys who are heavily involved and have done everything possible to make sure all these EO's are sound and will hold up in court

 

Where did I say they hired a white woman? It was a woman of color to be specific. So you are just dismissing everything as BS. Got it. I have shown examples of companies doing what I said was being done and you ignore it.

 

Seriously? I expect it from some on here, but not you.

 

You certainly have a right to that opinion but that's racial discrimination (by the companies, not you).

 

I'm not ignoring it, I just don't see it happening that much moving forward. And this was before Trump. Even a lot of liberals hate DEI.

 

You have always been able to hire/fire who you want, a capitalist government isn't going to get rid of at-will employment. You only get in trouble when you hire or fire people for explicitly illegal reasons, i.e. blatant racism/sexism/ableism, etc. This is why HR exists in the first place. Those performance reviews, DEI initiatives, codes of conducts, accessible work places, tampons in mens restrooms etc are all get out of jail cards if they get sued for discrimination.

 

It's also nice to pull out when people start criticizing you for your rapacious scumbag behavior too. Honestly, IMO, DEI is all about smokescreens. Look away from our horrifying business model and focus on that nice Gold Star Diversity Award instead.

 

I don't look at DEI as a monolith. Unfortunately, it has become that for too many who only view it as some sort of corporate quota system for hiring. It's understandable that for some, DEI gets in the way. Under far too many circumstances, though, marginalized communities are just that . . . marginalized. Consider individuals w disabilities. Trump wants to eliminate DEI and the Fed Dept of Education. That's the opposite of inclusion. The Individuals w Disabilities Education Act requires equal access to education. The Dept of Ed provides support for Title I schools. Access is an essential aspect to inclusion. Eliminating or dismissing DEI altogether misses the many places where not just "DEI" but ACTUAL diversity, equity, and inclusion make a difference in the lives of marginalized people.

Very few of the occupants on this board see it up close with their engineering / business creds, beautiful homes, nice cars, etc. "Yeah, but I worked for it." Sure, but you had opportunities that were exceptional when compared with Lina, the 6yr old Haitian girl who was dumped in a garbage bin because she had encephalitis. Lina was taken in by an orphanage and cared for by its constituents. She was taught music by people from the U.S. who were there to assist and share music education. She was then adopted by parents in the U.S. and afforded a quality education, received needed medical treatment, and had opportunities to (among other things) perform at Carnegie Hall. That's a true story and one made possible through equity/inclusion.

I don't know what Blackrock is.

 

Blackrock is the largest financial institution in the world, I believe. Larry Fink. They were the ones that took DEI full corporate and, IMO, ruined any chance it had.

I don't disagree with any of this. But like most things political, they took good sentiment and turned it into a soulless blob that everyone hates. The overreach from this, including the cancel culture era is, IMO, THE reason we have a scumbag douche as POTUS. But don't worry. We've got equal if not greater overreach from the other side, I'm sure we'll get something comparable to Che Guevara as the backlash to MAGA.

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