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Trump Claims Blacks Will Die Because Immigrants Will Take Their Jobs

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by AzCatFan, Jul 17, 2024.

  1. mdgator05

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    Not what I asked (for the second time). I asked what would be straight forward racism. Is there any statement that could be straight-forward racist? What would be the components of that statement that would differ from a statement that he doesn't like people of one race counting his money and he wants people from another race to do it?
     
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  2. AzCatFan

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    So a sloppy a hole very loose with his words can't also be racist? What else do you call a direct quote from Mein Kamph? Or Trump's false belief that immigrants will take blacks' jobs? It can be both stupid and racist at the same time.
     
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  3. Orange_and_Bluke

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    I know you want this to be the case…stupid and racist, because you’re like a rabid dog on a bone, never let up on your point.
    It’s funny how you and md really believe that you argue in good faith.
     
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  4. gatorchamps960608

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    Illegal immigrants in the US in the present = Jews in Germany in the 1930s

    #iykyk
     
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  5. AzCatFan

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    You keep deflecting. I'm asking a simple question. Please explain why Trump's stupid quotes on race aren't racist. This is you:

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    Add in some insults, and we have your next post!
     
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  6. Orange_and_Bluke

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    I already explained but nothing will satisfy a bad hungry dog on a bone…
    Trump doesn’t say a whole lot of things that make sense.
    That you’re wasting time thinking he does is not smart.
    And you believing everyone is a racist is the bigger issue.
     
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  7. mdgator05

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    His statement is really quite straightforward. He stated that he hates black people counting his money and that he would prefer it to be people who wear yarmulkes (an obvious reference to Jewish people). That seems to be pretty clear. You can not like the statement. I don't like the statement. But it isn't terribly unclear what he said.
     
  8. gatorchamps960608

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    That anecdote is literally printed in his Art of the Deal book.
     
  9. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Here’s the best part…I actually trust Trump’s words over yours.
    Let that sink in for a moment.
     
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  10. mdgator05

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    So you trust that Donald Trump doesn't like black people counting his money and that he would prefer Jewish people to do so?

    I'd be happy to see you provide a definition of racism in which that isn't racist. Please proceed.
     
  11. Orange_and_Bluke

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    I’m saying that I do not trust your ability to honestly communicate on this board.
    I do not trust your libbie bias or the libbie news sources you utilize to make your libbie points. Your posts are always liberal slanted….always. No one reads your posts, at least not if they are interested in a good faith discussion.
    Now try and let that sink in…
     
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  12. mdgator05

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    Again, you are lashing out with personal insults. I haven't been insulting you. I have simply asked that you handle a debate in a good faith fashion by providing a definition of racism that would exclude that statement so that we could further expound on the matter at hand. I have already provided my definition of racism, which I clearly think would encompass that statement. That definition came from the dictionary, not a "libbie news source." You stated that saying that he hates people from one race counting his money and he would prefer it be people from another race is not "straight forward racism." So I asked for a definition of "straight-forward racism." A simple and reasonable request.

    The fact that you can't engage or deal with this request and instead choose to try to insult your way around it is an issue with you. Not with me.
     
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  13. Orange_and_Bluke

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    I guess it’s still slowly sinking in…what can I say, I’m an optimist.
     
  14. mdgator05

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    That you are unable to discuss the matter in a good faith manner? Yes, that has sunk in. But I am going to press it while you kick, scream, throw tantrums, and insult people to avoid the debate.

    What is "straight-forward racism" that doesn't include the above statement?
     
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  15. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Wow, you really don’t get it.
     
  16. mdgator05

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    I'll ask again:

    What is "straight-forward racism" that doesn't include the above statement?

    Do you have an answer to that question?
     
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  17. Orange_and_Bluke

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    You’re not the guy/gal to debate.
    Have a good one.
     
  18. mdgator05

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    Okay, for the record, after claiming that a statement in which one person says that he doesn't like black people counting his money but prefers Jewish people to do so is not "straight-forward racism," you have been unable or unwilling to provide any definition for the term. Motives seem pretty obvious for why.
     
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  19. Orange_and_Bluke

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    [​IMG]
     
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  20. AzCatFan

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    Please point out where I stated everyone is racist? If you can't, then please stop lying and making things up. NOT EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING IS RACIST!!!

    But some things are. And things can be both stupid and racist. In fact, I'd say all things racist are stupid, but not all things stupid are racist.

    Trump has done some things that I'd say are both stupid and racist. And plenty of things that are just stupid. Some of things I consider both stupid and racist is Trump's quotes from Mein Kamph and his claim immigrants will take black jobs that will result in blacks dying. You, for some reason, just think they are stupid? So please explain, and not dodge the question, why aren't these things racist again?

    I know you won't answer. You can't. These things are 100% racist. Which is why you deflect and insult. It's the only things left in your quiver to respond. To actually attempt to explain why these aren't racist? Not possible.
     
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