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Trump Claims Blacks Will Die Because Immigrants Will Take Their Jobs

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by AzCatFan, Jul 17, 2024.

  1. gatorchamps0607

    gatorchamps0607 Always Rasta VIP Member

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    Well looks like this event didn't bring us together. I guess we will just continue to swirl the porcelain throne. Carry on.
     
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  2. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

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    You libbies stretched out the use of the word racism so that anything white people say can be construed as such.
    It’s ridiculous and it has hurt race relations more than anything.
     
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  3. BLING

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    Oh, my bad. I thought we were talking about Juan Merchan. Trump attacks so many judges with bs it’s tough to keep straight.

    Still, straight up racist attack for the same reasons.
     
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  4. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

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    In your feeble, overly sensitive world…everyone’s a racist.
    Sad.
     
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  5. mdgator05

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    Do you want to jump in and defend those statements. For example, do you think it is racist to say that you don't like black people handling your money? Or telling another white person that they wouldn't want to live with "them" (in reference to black people) either?
     
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  6. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

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    None of these examples make a person racist.
    Keep up the fight.
     
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  7. orangeblue_coop

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    Oh we all know what term you have used. No need for me to repeat it. Good day, sir.
     
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    From what I've heard, the polling data indicate that all groups (ages, races, etc.) are most concerned about the economy. I think the Democrats have often focused too much on issues like criminal justice reform at the exclusion of talking about things like education, healthcare, new energy and tech jobs, and other policies that directly relate to the economy and peoples' pocket books.
     
  9. mdgator05

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    Okay, make your argument. You saw the definition. Here it is again:

    Here is the quote from Trump:

    Make the logical argument for how that doesn't fit the dictionary definition provided.
     
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  10. BLING

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    Not really, just people who make crazy and racist comments.

    A couple of Biden’s older comments were pretty bad I would say, but he isn’t in 2024 playing footsie with white supremacists. Nor has he attacked individuals using race. Biden if anything probably overcompensates. Neither “team” is above pandering whenever it suits them, if you don’t think that’s what the OP describes I don’t know what to tell you.
     
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  11. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Just because you don’t like someone doesn’t mean you believe your race is superior to another’s.
    Just stop it.
     
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  12. Orange_and_Bluke

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    But everything can sound racist if you've trained your ears to listen for it.
    The libbie media has you all over it….like a buzzard on a roadkill.
    Eat it up brofus.
     
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  13. mdgator05

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    I didn't claim that it did. However, in that quote, did he declare a race of people superior and a race of people inferior? Seems pretty clear that he did. He didn't say "I don't like Joe, but I like Isaac." He said he didn't like black people handling his money and only liked Jewish people to do so.
     
  14. AzCatFan

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    Biden has made racist remarks in the past. No denying it. Trump too has a racist past with being sued for housing discrimination, to the CP5, questioning a judge's impartialness due to race and others. And only one of the candidates has recently quoted Hitler's Mein Kamph, and only one has claimed undocumented immigrants will come here and take "black jobs." And that's Trump. If you think these aren't racist, then it's not worth trying to explain.

    The reality is, nearly half of all undocumented immigrants come here and haven't yet completed high school. While there are no guarantees, the higher your education level, the better your job prospects. Does Trump really think blacks are only qualified to do jobs that don't require a high school diploma? And again, how is this NOT racist?
     
  15. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Sounds like he’s pretty general about it.
    But nobody will convince you otherwise.
    You’ll seek out instances where he might be racist, but never point out where he is not.
    It’s a bad look for you…but you’ve always been ignorant about this stuff. Why stop now?
     
  16. BLING

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    Some people definitely get oversensitive to things that aren’t there.

    But then you have textbook examples of racism/race baiting, and you are trying to deny textbook cases. Hmmm.

    The funny thing is the people trying to deflect with “BiDen iS rEaLlY tHe RaCiSt”, are actually doing that deep digging you describe to create their equivalency.
     
  17. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Nah, they’re playing the same game you’re playing.
    And I don’t blame them…the libbies made everything about race.
    Guess you’ve set the game rules, you should abide by them now.
     
  18. mdgator05

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    What does that even mean? Yes, he generally thinks black people have lower aptitude based on their race. That is what racism is.

    That seems like a completely impossible standard. Every person says things that aren't racist all the time. The fact that Hitler could order his breakfast without a comment about the Jews doesn't mean that he wasn't racist.

    Then, you start in with the personal insults in place of an argument.

    I suspect that this entire exercise has been in bad faith. But, since I'm feeling generous today, I will give you another opportunity. Since Donald Trump saying that he doesn't like black people handling his money is not an example of racism, I want you to provide me with a general criteria for what is racist, in your opinion. I assume that you won't decide that literally nothing is racism, so let's determine what statements a person can make, in general, that would be racist and how one would determine that a statement was racist.
     
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  19. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Would hitler appoint a Jew to be a top leader under him?
    Did Trump appoint Ben Carson to be a top part of his cabinet?
     
  20. mdgator05

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    Nope (setting aside that he himself may have had Jewish heritage). Is that the standard for when somebody is or isn't racist?

    Yes, but, interestingly, he appointed him to a cabinet position for which he had no background. Why do you think that he appointed a Neurosurgeon to lead Housing and Urban Development when said neurosurgeon was shown during congressional testimony to know very little about the topic?
     
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