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Trump charged Secret Service “exorbitant” rates to protect him and family on his properties

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Oct 18, 2022.

  1. vaxcardinal

    vaxcardinal GC Hall of Fame

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    By law the secret service is allowed to exceed the maximum payment when it’s protective mission requires it.
     
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  2. G8trGr8t

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    funny that they apparently didn't believe that when Trump booted them from Trump plaza for failure to pay enough
     
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  3. vaxcardinal

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    not sure i'm following your argument. Just because they are allowed to doesnt mean they have to.
     
  4. gatorchamps960608

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    For the Gateway Pundit types here denying this story, other versions by other outlets in the past had the actual hotel receipts from FOIA requests.

    Back to your warm, comfy alternative reality now.
     
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  5. VAg8r1

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    Correct and Trump maximized that provision in the law to his benefit. If it was hypothetically ever published "Ethical Behavior in Business and Government" by Donald Trump would undoubtedly be one of the shortest books ever released.
     
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  6. dynogator

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    And lied about it. Lying is what you do when you know what you're doing is wrong.
     
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  7. G8trGr8t

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    Kids stayed at hotel when visiting DC, not at WH, so SS had to stay there too. SS paid over $1k per night even though the hotel had an approved, contracted gubmnt rate of less than $250. SS spent over $1.4M at Trump properties, emoluments clause has no enforcement mechanism, but false claims act does, with treble damages plus a monetary penalty. DOJ should file suit against Trump properties right after the midterms

    Trump's Secret Service scam goes even deeper than we thought (msn.com)

    While the government has long paid the costs for Secret Service agents to travel with and protect the president and the first family, only one president has made money renting rooms to his protection. On Monday, the House Committee on Oversight and Reform released forms showing room rates more than five times what's allowable for federal employees. Some of these bills were incurred right in Washington, where the president stayed at the White House, and could have overnight guests. When his sons Don Jr. and Eric visited him, they chose not to stay at the White House but at a hotel – the Trump Hotel, of course.

    Taxpayers were charged $1,160 per room per night at the Trump International Hotel in Washington for Secret Service agents protecting Eric Trump on March 8, 2017, a night for which the government rate was $242. Taxpayers were charged $1,185 per room per night for agents protecting Donald Trump Jr. on Nov. 8, 2017 at the Trump Hotel, at a time when the government rate was $201. For most presidential offspring of presidents, being guarded by Secret Service agents would be enough of a thrill. For the Trump family, making money at taxpayer expense was apparently an even greater thrill.

    Oversight Committee Chair Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., recently wrote a letter to the Secret Service demanding more information about these stays. Her letter explained that Trump visited his properties more than 500 times while in office, and noted that early in his term, “the Secret Service received authorization for additional flexibility for expenses during protective missions, including per diem expenses above the government rate.” Yes, $1,000 a night hotel rooms need a lot of “flexibility.”
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    Another approach would be the False Claims Act, which imposes liability on any person who knowingly submitted false claims to the government and provides that violators are liable for treble damages plus a monetary penalty. Simply charging the government more than the usual government rate for hotel rooms may violate the act, but any misrepresentation of material facts made in connection with the Secret Service approvals, or in any other part of the process of getting these invoices paid, could be a violation. Representations that the Trump Organization charged “market rates,” or that cheaper alternative accommodations were not available in the area, for example, could amount to fraud. In that case, the Department of Justice could - and should - add the Trump Organization to the long list of defendants that have been sued under this law for defrauding the federal government.
     
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  8. GatorRade

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    What source has never produced a false story?
     
  9. WarDamnGator

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    Yes, it almost seems to be a plan on their part to spend as much time as possible on Trump properties to maximize their gains. Remember, the reason why SS had to have a permanent base at Trump Tower is because Melania wouldn't move to the White House for like the first year ... Then you have the constant trips to Mar A Lago and his other properties ...

    You are right, the DOJ should sue ...
     
  10. OklahomaGator

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    She moved into the White House in June 2017 after Barron finished school in New York.

    Melania Trump - Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Melania_Trump


    She and Barron moved into the White House in Washington, D.C., on June 11, 2017.
     
  11. tampagtr

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    Still true. Trust dogs

     
  12. gatorchamps960608

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    Allegedly. They were rumored to actually living in a house in the suburbs. And of course when she was in the WH, it was in a separate bedroom.