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Trump and the damage done

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by dangolegators, Sep 9, 2023.

  1. ridgetop

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    Honest question because I do not remember ( old age problems)
    I hate trump and all he stands for but when did he push people to that level of violence? Was there a broadcast, a speech, something where he called for this level
    Of violence and hate or did he just sew the seeds and some of these people had fertile ground I. The their hearts for hatred and violence?
     
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  2. duggers_dad

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    What violence ? Are you talking about the BLM riots ? Hard to blame Trump for that.
     
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  3. rivergator

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    They are responsible for their actions, but Trump has encouraged violence many times.
     
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  4. HeyItsMe

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    Hilarious how completely delusional you Trumpers are. Biden had done more good after one year for this country than Trump did in four. In fact, I still can’t think of a single positive thing he did outside of warp speed to get the vaccine rolled out quickly, and I honestly give way more credit to the doctors and scientists for that. Trump is garbage, accept it and move on already.
     
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  6. tampagtr

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    Kareem with a good metaphor in todays newsletter


    The problem here is intractable people who refuse to look at facts because those facts contradict beliefs they would prefer to hold. That ends all debate. The division isn’t between factions hashing out reasonable positions with each other. It’s between those who embrace logic and those who don’t. For example, a recent SSRS poll found that 72% of Republicans think there’s strong evidence Biden didn’t win the election or suspect he didn’t win. For the past three years, this issue has been hashed out in the courts and studied by experts. There is no evidence that Biden didn’t win. None. However, there is significant verifiable evidence that Trump and his cronies tried to illegally overturn the election results.
    This is not divisiveness. This is a horror movie in which the killer embodies what we as humans fear most: an entity that can’t be reasoned with. Roy Scheider didn’t debate with the shark in Jaws. The shark’s goal was to consume him—which is what the Republican Party has been doing with its opponents through voter suppression. No amount of logic or facts will deter them. Like Jason, Michael Myers, or the shark, they can’t be reasoned with or negotiated with.
    The fragile state of democracy that these presidential centers warn against is because we have given credence to these cretins. Trump, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Gaetz, Jim Jordan, Tommy Tuberville, Ron DeSantis, George Santos, Vivek Ramaswamy, and so on have Trojan Horsed us by hiding inside the Statue of Liberty, then sneaking out during the night to slaughter democracy while it slept.
     
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  7. duggers_dad

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    Isn’t it interesting that we were allowed to talk about election interference in 2016 but not in 2020 ?
     
  8. rivergator

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    Good grief. The amount of "we're not allowed to talk about ...." whining that goes on here.
     
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  10. g8trjax

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    LOL, why don't the libs just kill him and get it over with.
     
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  11. DesertGator

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    It's far easier to blame whichever political party is in charge than take personal responsibility for one's own actions. That's the real tragedy.

    In keeping with the same vein, I'd argue that hyper-partisan rhetoric and the generated outrage associated with it is the single worst thing to ever happen to this country. The death of reasonability and critical thinking.

    I would almost liken it to the lawsuits against the tobacco companies. Same idea in my swiss-cheese brain. The cigarette companies were liable for the addiction (the civil lawsuits bear that out) yet it was still the individual choice of smokers to light up.
     
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  12. gatorchamps960608

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    Attempting to overthrow the government to stay in power should be a capital offense.
     
  13. FutureGatorMom

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    Election interference in 2016: WHY DIDN'T OBAMA DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!

    Election interference in 2020:

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