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Trump administration concedes Maryland father from El Salvador was mistakenly deported

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8tas, Apr 1, 2025.

  1. vegasfox

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    Exactly, Gangbanger daddy, hero of the Leftists, was ordered to be deported before the SCOTUS even got involved... Lol. The SCOTUS looks foolish and pathetic.
     
  3. vegasfox

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    SCOTUS can't take away Trump's powers as outlined in the Constitution. Trump will give the Supreme Court a few months to get it right. If they don't he'll ship the illegals out of our country anyway. What's SCOTUS going to do then? Nothing.
     
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  4. G8tas

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    Again, are you ok with Supreme Court rulings being ignored?
     
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  5. G8tas

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    Again, are you ok with Supreme Court rulings being ignored?
     
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    Again, what supreme court ruling did he ignore? The one that came after the fact?
     
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    Again, what supreme court ruling did he ignore? The one that came after the fact?
     
  8. vegasfox

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    If it isn't Constitutional of course, 100%. The 3 branches of gov't are theoretically co-equal. SCOTUS has no right to take away power from the legislators who created the Alien Enemies Act or from the man elected to execute that law. If SCOTUS rules otherwise let them enforce their decision (good luck).
     
  9. wgbgator

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    What supreme court rulings don't come 'after the fact?' lol ... courts arent oracles, they rule on things that already happened
     
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  10. vaxcardinal

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    Yes and Trump has followed them so I can only assume you must be talking about some other rulings.
     
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  11. mdgator05

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    As we explained to you yesterday...Trump is saying that Garcia will not come back, which is obviously ignoring the ruling that they facilitate his return and the Appeals Court ruling that facilitation requires active steps to return him. It really isn't that complicated.
     
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    so its not possible that Trump is saying that Garcia will not come back because the El Salvador president has already said they aren't returning him? USCC said facilitate so they offered up an airplane. If USCC wants more done then they need to say so, not some other court.
     
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    No. In the oval office, the President of El Salvador suggested that he would need to smuggle him back into this country in order to return him. That means that the government is not facilitating his return as he is suggesting that they would need to take illegal measures to return him. Your interpretation forces you to be obtuse to an almost impossible degree.


    Not how the judicial system works. The Supreme Court issued the ruling, sending it back to lower courts to administer. The lower courts are doing that while the administration ignores the Judicial Branch's rulings.
     
  14. AzCatFan

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    Abrego Garcia never had deportation orders. He did have a deportation hearing in 2019. The judge ruled he could stay under protection orders. The Feds, under Trump, could've appealed back in 2019. They didn't.

    As a result, Abrego Garcia was here legally. He had Constitutional protections. Heck, everyone under our jurisdiction is supposed to have Constitutional protections, as the Constitution doesn't say it's for citizens only. But there are laws allowing for those here illegally to be deported. But those do not cover Abrego Garcia, who again, is here legally.

    Trump has been ordered by SCOTUS to facilitate his release. Think trying Abrego Garcia in the court of public opinion is acting in good faith to uphold the court order? If the answer is no, then please explain why Trump should ignore the SCOTUS ruling. And if this is a good thing or not.
     
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    The Supreme Court can pound sand. Trump has carte blanche to do what he wants in this area per the Alien Enemies Act which was passed by the legislative branch.
     
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  16. g8orbill

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    I highly doubt they have been ignored and more than likely are negotiating behind the scenes- however, once the illegal alien is gone, I do not expect him back
     
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  17. mdgator05

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    Actually, in the American system of governance, no branch has Carte Blanche to do whatever it wants. We call it checks-and-balances. The goal is to avoid somebody like your leader Putin from rising to power. Judicial review has existed since 1803.
     
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  18. G8tas

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    Thank you for finally saying what the rest of your folk have been too scared to say. The Supreme Ruler does not need the court system in his way of us all bowing to his will
     
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    Wait, now you are imagining "negotiations" with the Supreme Court? That would be highly improper. The Supreme Court is not supposed to negotiate with other branches of government about their rulings.
     
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    There's no need for the Trump administration to respect the SCOTUS decision. The judiciary must not be allowed to unconstitutionally usurp legislative or executive powers.

    In our form of gov't the will of the people must be respected. The judiciary, gov't bureaucrats and the Deep State are trying to take away the ability of the people to govern themselves. Trump and MAGA have had enough. SCOTUS can play ball or get out of the way.
     
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