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Too many cooks?

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by gainesvillegreen44, Oct 15, 2022.

  1. gainesvillegreen44

    gainesvillegreen44 GC Legend

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    Before the season I heard an interesting analytics based philosophy out of Napier where we have 15 different situational play caller coaches. Coaches are assigned 3rd 7- 3rd 10… 1st and 10 on the 20 or 1st and 10 on the 45… so oh and so forth. They develop cards for what to call and why and they have to defend their calls during weekly meetings. I’ve noticed a serious lack of “flow” to this offense. There could be many reasons…. Ar accuracy at times,not having the ball enough cuz we can’t get off the field, talent gaps etc… But what I’m seeing is huge gash plays followed up by head scratching runs into the pile, motion on one play, not another, montrell used sometimes … not others. I’m not sure what the identity is and how we are dictating to the defense. I’m wondering if this philosophy of having a dozen “play callers” might be hindering us from having cohesiveness. Just a thought.
     
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  2. Gatorrick22

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    I have a massive brain and I can handle it all by myself... does Napier? Lol... :D;)

    I think he needs to take the training wheels off... he needs to down size some of the overlap, slop.
     
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  3. KronoGator

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    If that's the way we're calling plays then we're freaking doomed lol
     
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  4. nawlinsgator

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    I agree. The gimmick was to give everyone a co-offensive, co-defensive coordinator position to make them happy. We need real people in those positions, especially D coordinator. People that need to be held accountable.
     
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  5. northgagator

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    Too many cooks?
    Maybe on the defensive side of the ball. Then again any good cook needs the ingredients to cook a gourmet meal. In the Gator D case, there is not the enough quality defensive players to go against talent laden schools like Alabama, LSU, Georgia, and Texas AM.
    The game tonight showed that the Gator D does not have the talent at the corner, linebacker, and safety positions. They were too slow and too soft to match up LSU. Expect the same for UGA.
     
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  6. freedomgator

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    Source?
     
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  7. chunks1

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    If true we definitely have the wrong guy.
     
  8. partdopy

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    I hope to god whoever told you that made it up. That would be one of the funniest things I'd heard in a while we're it not UF.
     
  9. ShortBusGator

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    On offense, it's pretty simple, without being able to consistently and confidently run, AR just isn't that good.
     
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  10. gainesvillegreen44

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    It was absolutely not made up. It came out of 2-3 summer interviews with staff. I can post link to podcast. I believe Gator Nation football pod and Will Miles both went pretty in depth about it. I found it weird at the time but you know we all make up reasons things will be amazing in the off season and then hindsight is like “oh yeah… that’s just crazy…. Like hiring a DC from the Sun belt or a LBs coach who got fired from UNC, or not having a true OC/QB coach…. You know, stuff like that… where after the fact you go…”wait, we could’ve had Lincoln Reilly, right?”
     
  11. partdopy

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    Well I'm happy we didn't get Lincoln Riley. Go look at what he really did at Oklahoma. OU slightly regressed every year (finished at 3, 4, 7, 6, and then 10 in AP in that order) and his recruiting did as well. He feasted on big 12 teams and bolted when ge realized he'd have to play in the SEC soon. His USC squad has beaten nobody and just lost to Utah, who as we know Billy beat. I don't think the guy ever won a big game. He was 1-3 in bowls.

    I still think this could be a good hire but it's concerning, and your strange play calling process doesn't sound like a good idea. Sounds like something a bunch of random people with no football experience would do if asked to coach a game
     
  12. 2ndGenGator

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    I am going to say this

    1) At first I misread the title of this thread and said to myself, "there is no way I am clicking on that link" once I realized it said "cooks" I relaxed

    2) in general, when managers bring in a large staff to do what a smaller staff can do, is usually a red flag. Almost universally a sign of a bad manager. In my industry we say that 9 women can't have a baby in one month.

    3) I hope what you state is going on is not the real or whole story. Hopefully something being misrepresented or misreported
     
  13. swampspring

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    I wonder if this is one of those things where he's testing out all of his coaches to see who he should retain, etc. I'm assuming the way he has always worked, he's about the long term and probably unlike the fans, was using this year to test everything out.

    On the other hand, if that was the case, at least you would think there would be more creativity on both sides of the ball to see what does and doesn't work. So what I'm saying is, I'm at a loss.
     
  14. archigator_96

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    Expect worse from UGA. But you can expect the same from FSU and SCarloina.
     
  15. wygator

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    Keep in mind that Billy spent some time in the Saban system where we have observed for years the large number of assistant coaches, Quality Control Assistants etc. that Nick has. This is what Billy is trying to emulate. The risk is paralysis by analysis.
     
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