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Tim Scott announces presidential candidacy.

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by jjgator55, May 22, 2023.

  1. jjgator55

    jjgator55 VIP Member

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    Listening to his speech he mentioned personal responsibility which made me perk up since taking responsibility hasn’t been a Republican trait lately. Then he lost me by lying about the President attacking and defunding law enforcement when Biden’s Budget includes $17.8 billion for DOJ law enforcement. He also seems to have missed the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act among others. What a shame.
     
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  2. BLING

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    I don’t think Scott is a kook.

    But similar to Haley, if he’s going to stand there and spout the same trashy dishonest talking points, then he’s useless.
     
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  3. citygator

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  4. GatorNorth

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    Pub candidates have the very tough balancing act of trying to look sane while not alienating the bulk of the base by spouting conspiracy theories.
    Not sure it’s possible.
     
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  5. VAg8r1

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    If any candidate can beat Trump in the Republican primaries it will be Tim Scott rather than Ron DeSantis. Although there is probably little difference between DeSantis, Trump and Scott when it comes to substantive policies Tim Scott comes over as much more positive than DeSantis with his strategy that seems to begin and end with his "war on woke" or Trump's strategy of appealing to grievances and owning the libs. That being said, I still think the Orange One has to be the favorite and with the Republican method of allocating delegates based on winner-take-all, Trump could very well end up winning the nomination with under 40 percent of the primary votes cast. He managed to do it in 2016, with 44 percent of the votes.
     
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  6. docspor

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    Gotta believe the Trump camp’s take is the more the merrier. I think the Desantis belly flop is attracting more folks into the race
     
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  7. Tjgators

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    The DOJ is corrupt. Let's give them more money and resources. As for Tim Scott, he will drop out at some point and back DeSantis. Scott is being backed by Thune, who will be the next awful senate leader. Scott is just one of the many backed by GOP to stop Trump.
     
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  8. jjgator55

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    I tend to agree but I don’t think any of the announced candidates can beat Trump because they’re too afraid to stand up to him. The only republicans who I think would do that is Christie and Sununu. Most republicans are going to vote for the candidate with an R after their name, so I don’t understand the reluctance.
     
  9. VAg8r1

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    Spoken like a true member of the Cult of the Donald and typical of the Republican primary voters who will be responsible for Trump's nomination and for what it's worth DeSantis will end up dropping out before Scott. Ron DeSantis is the Jeb Bush/Scott Walker of the 2024 election cycle and will suffer the same fate as Jeb and Walker.
     
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  10. citygator

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    I wouldn’t vote for Tim or Nikki since they both abdicated support for democracy by thinking it is subservient to party and have shown the backbone of a jellyfish standing up to the worst elements, not just of the GOP, but of humanity….. HOWEVER, they likely would fall short of trying to impose a religious theocracy and cultural fascism that is dreamed of by the GOP. Maybe.
     
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  11. BossaGator

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    Meh.
     
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  12. duggers_dad

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    The racism is thick on this thread.
     
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  13. mrhansduck

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    Seems like he's trying the "nice guy" approach, but I doubt his substantive platform will be different than Trump, DeSantis, and Haley.

    One interesting contrast between Tim Scott and DeSantis is that DeSantis' wife and children have been a big part of his image. Tim Scott has never been married and does not have children - something many like MTG seem to think is critical for having legitimate takes about education and social issues. I looked it up, and apparently we have had only one President who never married: James Buchanan. There has been speculation about Buchanan's sexuality, and I'm wondering how much this might or might not affect Scott's campaign.
     
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  14. GatorNorth

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    If you think DeSantis belly flopped, wait until you see the splash of Christie’s cannonball.
     
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  15. Emmitto

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    Nah, he's all in too. He is still just not saying every last one of the quiet parts out loud. But some he is already putting out there in an unmistakable way. He'll impose his beliefs on you with the full force of the state, pronto.

     
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  16. rivergator

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    ouch. that's scary ...
     
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  17. Tjgators

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    MAGA/America First is not a cult and it certainly is not DT. You have very little understanding of what makes up the conservative movement. All the money is behind DeSantis. All other primary candidates are being used as blunt force weapons against Trump and to prop up DeSantis at the end.
     
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  18. gtr2x

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    The more the merrier makes DJT happy. His base is going nowhere and this just spreads out the opposition votes. That was his path to nomination in the first place.
     
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  19. G8trGr8t

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    Not sure. I think the Koch machine is iso a moderate conservative to support and if Scott would stay away from resentment and grievance politics he could earn a massive, nationwide, well funded, ground game full of professionals.

    They clearly do not like DT or Des
    Koch Network Vows to Deny Trump White House

    [COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.95)]The declaration, released in a recent memo to staffers and activists, never explicitly mentions [/COLOR][COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.95)]Trump[/COLOR][COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.95)], but it’s abundantly clear from the tone in Americans for Prosperity CEO Emily Seidel’s message that the grassroots behemoth she leads has no plans of being a passive player in Republican politics when it comes to the White House. “Our country must move past the current political situation—we’ve got to turn the page on the past several years,” she wrote. “If we want to elect better people, we need better candidates. And if we want better candidates, we’ve got to get involved in elections earlier and in more primaries.”

    Americans for Prosperity is perhaps the most forward-facing arm of the Koch political orbit, organized more than two decades ago by billionaires Charles and David Koch. They went all-in on Mitt Romney’s campaign in 2012, a move many of the network’s members to this day regret. The groups were no fans of Trump in 2016 but many of their donors were, so they officially stayed out of the primary after flirting with a flex. By the time Trump 2020 arrived, the groups had seen mixed records on their goals—tax cuts and criminal justice reform were good to their minds; the administration’s efforts on immigration and isolationism were not—and instead stayed largely out of the race.[/COLOR]
     
  20. channingcrowderhungry

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    The Koch's would be setting their money on fire supporting a moderate candidate that isn't into culture war stuff.