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Discussion in 'Alligator Alley (other sports)' started by gatorjjh, Oct 5, 2021.

  1. manigordo

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    I would say that it is "just about time" instead of "way past time."
    People, like me, disagreed with you based on past experience and lauded the coach for changing things up and developing all the talent. That is not the same as giving you flack. Relax and enjoy the ride with your Gator friends.We all want the same finish.
     
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  2. ETGator1

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    I didn't say "way" past time. I said past time. JMO, at Mizzou last week should have been the start of priming the pump for the rest of the season. That did not happen as evidenced by the comments at GymCastic podcast on Tuesday or the results in the meet.

    I'm left to wonder if the team can just flip a switch and be ready for a top LSU team on Friday night. Does UF take it easy on gymnasts and difficulty again? I guess we'll see when the lineups come up and the level of difficulty on the event is announced.
     
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  3. manigordo

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    On "way"...sorry.
     
  4. gatornharlem

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    Celebrating 50 Years of Gator Gymnastics
    From winning the final AIAW team title in 1982 to claiming three consecutive NCAA crowns (2013, 2014, 2015), Gator Gymnastics has many highlights in its 50-year history.

    Here’s a look at Gator Gymnastics accomplishments since its first season in 1972-73:
     
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  5. gatornharlem

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    Utah Gymnastics
    #3 Utah vs #11 California
    2 Teams not on Florida's schedule but Utah's one of the favorites for NCAA title
    Utah Vault 49.375 UB 49.300 Beam 49.375 Floor 49.525 197.275
    California Vault 49.300 UB 49.450 Beam 49.250 Floor 49.475 197.525
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  6. ETGator1

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    michigan scored 197.60 at home against #36 penn state, but rested 2 top gymnasts.
     
  7. gatornharlem

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    #1 Michigan
    Vault 49.525 UB 49.500 Beam 49.125 Floor 49.450
    Penn State
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    48.950 UB 49.050 Beam 48.875 Floor 49.000
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  8. buckeyegator

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    disrespect,disrespect,disrespect.........
     
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  9. gatornharlem

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    You want to see disrespect? Here is an email on GymCastic's website by a college gymnastics fan regarding Florida:

    OK Now, I am Irritated.
    Florida has been bailed out WAAAY too many times this year for there to be any doubt that there is a MAJOR bias towards that program. They were ABSOLUTELY bailed out against MIZZOU, and watching this LSU/FLA meet (I like on demand, because the 10 second skip is pure holiness) there is enough evidence to not be able to deny it. Riley McCusker repeats a skill, has a rhythm issue and still gets a 9.85 when a second counted score is needed for them? HECK. NO. Alabama is in the lead and does everything correct and somehow FLA pulls 2 10s out of nowhere? AND THERE WERE LANDING DEDUCTIONS. Florida Gymnasts step out of bounds in a close meet, and judges just miss it. No wonder Payton Richards isn’t making lineups, she’s the ONLY FLA gymnast who is held accountable for her mistakes. Which is sad for her. Trinity Thomas is capable of 10s and should be rewarded for 10 performances, but that ALA meet was a travesty.
    I have been a FLA fan, and an SEC fan for a long time. I love all the teams remember people griping about over scoring issue when Maggie Nichols was at OU. THEY WERE CONSISTENTLY THAT GOOD. The Kyla Ross/Nichols 10s race was warranted. FLA has competed at a subpar level multiple times and in meets where its coming down to a tenth they are winning. It’s obvious and ridiculous.


    My response:
    This is how’s I feel when I’m watching an Oklahoma home meet. They consistently get “home gym advantage” high scores. 2 SEC teams hit season high scores against Florida this season- LSU (197.975), Missouri (197.650-the only meet they scored 197+). Against Arkansas it was not even close. Florida had their worst meet at Georgia, and the Bulldogs’ received favorable high scores on their floor routines- perhaps sympathy from the judges after 5 falls on beam? That’s what it appeared to me. How many times has Trinity Thomas scored a 9.975 or 9.950 when the commentators have remarked they could not find a single deduction in her routine? In the Utah-California meet 2 Utah gymnasts stepped out of bounds on their floor routines but weren’t given deductions for it. Imagine if Utah had scored their season beam average and won the meet, the difference coming from the missed out-of-bounds deductions? The commentator even remarked that (Utah's Grace) McCallum in his opinion was receiving favorable high scores during the meet maybe because she’s an Olympian?
    Re: "being Bailed out": Missouri scored an all-time record-breaking team high 49.600 on the floor. Florida responded with a 49.625 on beam, which was not even their season high. Florida still won by .1250. So they were not “bailed” out by the judges (it was an away meet too, so there was no “home-gym” scoring advantage). Against LSU, it was not close enough for Florida getting “bailed out.” Even if their floor scoring was slightly over, say 49.650 instead of 49.800, they still would have won. Attacking Florida as THE only school getting unfair high scores is ridiculous and based on conjecture. And perhaps some animosity towards the Gators?
     
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  10. gatornharlem

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    How is ETGator1 being disrespectful? To me it sounds like he's impressed that Michigan scored 197.600 while resting their top 2 AAs...
     
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  11. buckeyegator

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    i was talking about a earlier post that complained jenny rested some vs missouri, said it was disrespectful to the opposition, just comparing what michigan did, resting 2, was that also disrepectful or just wise thinking
     
  12. ETGator1

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    There is the difference that PSU is awful at #35 and Mizzou posted their best meet of the season ranked #11 at the time.

    I watched #15 Michigan State at Michigan a few weeks back. The Wolverines put the petal to the metal and didn't disrespect the Spartans and their ranking.

    UF rested 3 on the floor, 2 on the vault, and 1 on the bars at Mizzou. To me, that was a poor decision against a highly rated opponent on the road. It looked like disrespect for Mizzou to me, my opinion. Hope UF does not repeat this at Kentucky.

    I am impressed with Michigan more than any team not named Florida. They worked hard in the offseason, work hard during the season, and haven't posted a bad score yet. They have talent, chemistry, aggressiveness, and experience. Champions are made of these traits. The Michigan coach has been there forever, think 36 years, so there excellent leadership at the top of the gymnastics program too.
     
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  13. ETGator1

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    See my post #112 for your answer.
     
  14. buckeyegator

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    you did not address resting 2 against a woeful opponent, to me it is the same as what jenny did, either all in or nothing unless injured seems to be what everyone wants, yet late season fatigue gets criticized, so, to me, what both teams did was ok, afterall, regular season scores really don;t mean much in the grand scheme of things, but if you criticize 1 program you need to criticize others for doing the same thing,imo.
     
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  15. gatornharlem

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    Maybe Jenny was underestimating Mizzou's potential rather than being disrespectful? Remember there was a snowstorm and the Gators were late arriving to the gym. Maybe Jenny was concerned for potential injuries? Looking back it was a good testament to the Gators' resilience, having to overcome both the inclement weather and Mizzou's record-breaking performances. Michigan-Michigan St are instate rivals and I'm sure Michigan wanted to have their top healthy gymnasts perform against their hated rivals. Coaches are usually mum when it comes to their athletes' injuries so we will probably never know the reasoning behind Jenny's decision of resting some of the team's top gymnasts. I'm sure you meant no "disrespect" to Jenny's "disrespecting."
     
  16. buckeyegator

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    my whole point is michigan did it and gator fans are more focused on what we did rather than what they did,which was the same thing,resting athletes
     
  17. ETGator1

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    I can live with underestimating. Either way, it wasn't a good look for UF. The announcers were openly rooting for Mizzou by the end of the meet after questioning the many lineup changes. BTW, it was one on the bars, not the beam.

    These same announcers were biased against UF in the LSU meet devoting segments to LSU in between the events that I thought should have been on UF. During the meet, I turned the sound off. They were irritating to listen to.
     
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