The Trump Con in a Nutshell

Trump and his band of traitors filed 61 lawsuits but NOW he claims weaponization?

 

All I’m saying is you have a “rightest” interpretation. The problem we have is thinking the other side’s interpretation is always wrong. We’re all Americans, love our country and want what’s best for it. For the most part, we’re relatively intelligent and come by our positions honestly. I don’t know why each side can’t edge toward the middle and, if not compromise, at least agree to disagree politely. I say this while acknowledging that I’m not always polite.

For example, I have said on more than one occasion that Donald Trump is a terrible human being and leader, and that anyone who supports him doesn’t truly love America. He sure doesn’t. He only loves himself. I acknowledge I can’t meet anyone halfway on that.

 

It's because the situation today is that one side is a cult, or is cult-dominated. Cults do not compromise. Nor should you want to compromise with a cult.

 

Right bias? In the past opinion and interpretation were influenced by bias. Now the right has its own unique fact set. Stolen elections. Covid and vaccine conspiracies. Some even entertain democratic child molestation rings.

It is pretty much impossible to even have a productive conversation with someone who faithfully believes in a reality that is demonstrably wrong.

 

At least you guys admit you belong to a cult

 

FOX is no friend to Trump. There are no legit MSM companies. None.

 

The projection from the right on this forum has become pathetic.

 

This is where we part. There are a number of factual items about everything from the election of 2020 to The documents to Jan 6 that are being interpreted only through the leftist prism.
Prime example about the 2020 election is all the spouting of losing all the court case when then the vast majority were never heard because of standing.
The fact that capital police open gates and unlocked doors on Jan 6. This is not conspiracy, films of the day show this.
The fact that most of the Trump admin that have been prosecuted were process crimes not not the original crime charged.
The fact that all the intelligence community that said the entire lap top deal was Russian misinformation.
I’m not trying to defend Trump, I’m saying there is a lot that has been interpreted and promoted that is not the whole story.
It takes courage to admit you may be have been wrong. I’m willing to admit that, when we actually get to hear what really happened.

 

I see by the ratings that your gang is already on board!

 

That is simply not true. The evidence, i.e., the facts, is overwhelming against Trump. The fact that a small minority might not like them is once again evidence of emotion overcoming reason. Rather than see Trump and the events you mentioned for what they clearly were, you create an alternate reality. Furthermore, this alternate reality is comforting because it allows you to believe you have some special insight.

Don't you think you're being disingenuous? It sure seems as that's exactly what you're doing.

 

The what do you mean by "legit"? And what's the connection in your post between Fox being no friend to Trump and MSM?

 

Can you post some evidence that that's true? thanks

 

Sure seems to me that you're trying to do the exact thing of which you're accusing someone else by trying to frame things in the most generous interpretation for Trump.

1. While it may be true that some cases were tossed because of standing, the reality is that the cases were based on innuendo and conjecture. There still hasn't been any factual evidence of voter fraud presented in or out of court. In the most heavily contested states, the votes were counted, recounted, and in some cases counted again. In Arizona, Trump's hand picked auditors couldn't find any fraud.

2. The Capitol Police opened barricades and doors to fallback to other defensive positions because they were completely overwhelmed by attackers. They did so rather than opening mass fire on a crowd which would of course escalated the situation in a terrible way.

3. These aren't just process crimes that Trump and his cronies are being indicted for, but even so, people get prosecuted for process crimes because they commit those while trying to cover up more serious crimes. Let the cases play out in court and we'll see what evidence the DOJ has.

4. I could be wrong, but the IC didn't confirm it was Russian disinformation but rather said it had all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation (i.e., all too convenient timing, questionable chain of custody, potential to mix real and fake information). That's a reasonable conclusion to reach imo. The complaint to had here is that the laptop wasn't allowed to sway the election to Trump which is 10000000% correct answer. We shouldn't want a knee-jerk swing of an election at thr last minute because of questionable information.

 

Fox is MSM.

 

Fox is nothing like there other so called MSM outlets. That being said implicit in your post is that once a media outlet has enough viewers/readers it is by definition part of the MSM. By your definition the only media outlets that aren't part of the MSM are those with a limited number of viewers/readers like Newsmax or OAN.

 

Could you please give a few examples of what type of policies would be in the middle? Thanks.

 

Are you suggesting Fox ought to be friendly to Trump?

 

Listless