The spreading GOP destruction of public education

They made a Constitution that incorporated slavery into it, and the 'tyranny' that half of the signers were worried about was their slaves being freed by democratic means

 

A government run school is one run by the elected officials in government.

Freedom of educational choice is what I was meaning to say.

 

I did. Very clearly. Keep reading.

 

You are missing the point Davis. Im not the one praising governors, but IF people wanna play that game, they have to play 8t evenly. Hint: the OP wasnt written by me

 

Lol. Whuut?
I clarified that i was meaning freedom of educational choice. If there is no choice in where we can get an education eventually that one remaining source becomes to powerful. Like branches of government.

School choice is the check and balance needed.

 

I think the purpose of this is an ad hominem attack on the founders, so as to dismiss the founders out right. Nonetheless, you reinforce my argument by pointing out that the founders omitted things that ought not to have been omitted. They enjoyed the power and the benefits of slavery, just like you enjoy the power and the benefits of the educational-political complex. You could take that history you learned and apply it to your own context.

 

This (probably formally banned) poster that keeps reemerging thinks im a conspiracy theorist for suggesting that a lack of choice could be a slippery slope. I'm pointing out that people on his side have all sorts of fears as well.

He's clearly someone else without the balls to ID himself for fear of another banning.

As one sided as it gets to btw. Anything right of AOC is a maga to this poster.

Again. I am "vouching" for lower income/middle class folks who may be stuck in a failing district etc. I do not support vouchers for the rich and think like most government aid it should have a financial limit based on income level.

 

Please stop engaging this poster.

He has NOTHING to value add to this topic and it seems most others. Anyone so caught up in these absolutes and distorts the truth is a lost cause. Above is a perfect example. He draws his conclusions even if they are contrary to FACTS. All his post should come with a disclaimer.

 

Education threads are weird man. Some of you guys just click disagree based on the poster I believe. Some of what you guys think some of us are saying ain't even close.

You guys really couldn't live with an INCOME BASED voucher system? One that targets lower and middle class families and offers no breaks to the rich? One that could target low performing districts?

I mean thats a liberal position in every other topic is it not?

Health care, taxes, welfare etc. All work under this model.

 

I would say literal slave owners enjoyed that power/benefit more than whatever it is you think I receive from our technocratic military industrial complex today.

 

Threatening me? Pretty weak.

 

41% of charters schools go under.

How is that helping the children?

 

Likewise, parents can receive school vouchers for their children to go to a private school, which has an increased public benefit over public schools.

 

Since when does govt need to pay for choices? The govt should certainly ensure every student has that opportunity at an education, it is not practical for the government to spend more to give a complete array of “choices” to accommodate everyone’s sensibilities. Even public school choice is hugely inefficient, makes them double or triple the bus routes (and often carry’s side effect of racial segregation… that’s exactly what happened around here after school choice, segregation increased big time because all the white families chose the school that was farthest away and outside city limits, and surprise surprise that A rated school wasn’t an option for the black community who mostly live in city limits).

I think vouchers are fair if you send back only the variable cost of sending that child elsewhere. All taxpayers whether they have kids or not are covering the fixed costs (often inadequately). But I suspect that variable cost component refundable to a specific child is quite small, relative to the full cost of private school attendance which again has to cover both the full fixed and variable costs of running a separate school.

 

Link to “increased public benefit”?

 

I did not threaten you. I said you are probably scared if you ID any previous alias you may get banned.

Newsflash. I don't ban people. Thats up to admin.

 

I thought the benefit of private schools was exclusivity. Don't vouchers basically turn private schools into public schools?

 

No indoctrination of course!

 

No one is "scared" of you. I'm a friend of a current poster. Stop being so paranoid.

 

Says the "new" guy with 86 posts since Friday that wont ID himself.

Why dont you tell is what uou disagree with about my position on the subject? Is it the helping poor kids part? I'm really confused.