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The spreading GOP destruction of public education

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by citygator, May 23, 2023.

  1. swampbabe

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    You’ve never seen teachers strike in Florida because it’s against the law. The only time there was a wildcat strike was in 1968 due to the actions of Claude Kirk. Teachers have ALWAYS been paid poorly here but it has gotten exponentially worse over the last 25 years.
     
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  2. jjgator55

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    Teachers know where it goes. It’s grown because there are more students, it goes to textbook companies for books whose costs are overly inflated, have frequent mistakes, and must be replaced every five years. By the way, the state legislature limits the companies schools can chose books from based on campaign contributions. The money goes toward school board junkets, replacing and maintaining school buses, increased cafeteria food costs with an increasing number of students getting free and reduced lunches, students with disabilities require smaller class sizes, extra staff and special equipment. I can go on.
     
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  3. jjgator55

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    If God ever wanted to give Florida an enema he’d stick the hose in Claude Kirk.
     
  4. citygator

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    I dont think that's true. Spending per pupil hasnt grown and if you go back pre 2009 recession its way down.

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    Fully Funding Florida's K-12 Public Schools
     
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  5. gatorpa

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    I don’t disagree with you here. My wife was a public school teacher for 15 years in Volusia county. She went back for a few years about 5 years ago and decided that their new SOP wasn’t worth the headache.
     
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  6. gatorpa

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    If that’s the metric you use.
    Are they omitting some of the massive super expensive school that are being built. I believe the last big redo in our area was something like 100 million and that was at least 10 years ago.
     
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  7. citygator

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    Look up base allocation funding it will explain to you its the operating costs per pupil. Full detail starts on page 4. I see you are surprised.

    Maybe you should try and find an art teacher, or a counselor dedicated to one school, or any number of student support that isnt core. It's all been slashed.

    https://www.fldoe.org/core/fileparse.php/7507/urlt/fefpdist.pdf
     
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  8. tampagtr

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    Evidence that it’s working


    As school board candidates backed by Gov. Ron DeSantis and Moms for Liberty gain a foothold across Florida, they’ve targeted superintendents as barriers to their agenda.

    Since November, the chief administrators in Broward, Brevard, Flagler, Collier, Sarasota, Escambia and Duval counties have been fired or pushed to leave. The interim leader in Brevard was quickly pushed out, too.

    And in Hernando County, Superintendent John Stratton survived a no-confidence vote this past week as the two right-leaning members of his board couldn’t convince a third colleague to back them up.

    That made Stratton a rarity among Florida superintendents: He’s still standing.

    Across the state, Stratton is among five current board-appointed superintendents who held the same post in 2020. Over the past four years, Florida’s 67 districts will have seen 61 new superintendents by the time July 1 rolls around.




    Fla. school districts are losing leaders
    Fla. school districts are losing leaders - Tampa Bay Times

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  9. swampbabe

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    Fun fact, the new superintendent in Brevard resigned from Indian River county (before he got canned), became the principal at Cocoa Beach MS/HS where he worked with one of the newly elected board members, Gene Trent (Moms for Liberty candidate and associated with the Proud Boys) and was recommended for the position by Tiffany Justice (Moms of Liberty).

    In addition, it seems that the new superintendent had an affair with Justice while in Vero. Just another day in paradise here.
     
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  10. tampagtr

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    Wow. It's still amazes me how much influence those complete crazed idiots have. I just have a hard time believing that even a significant plurality of Floridians would support that if they understood it.
     
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  11. tigator2019

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    In my head--- UF
    private schools will educate the leaders of business, tech, medicine

    public schools will be the battlegrounds for MAGA indoctrination, culture wars, but not core education to allow minors to compete in the global economy
     
  12. tampagtr

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    Moms for Liberty quoting Hitler. If, like me, you thought they were quoting an anonymous aphorism that happened to have been uttered by Hitler, you would, like me, be mistaken. They have since admitted quoting Hitler was wrong and that they condemn Hitler. Appreciate the clarification



     
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  13. duggers_dad

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    You people sound like you’re saying the destruction of public education is a bad thing.
     
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    You do know what board you're on, right?
     
  15. citygator

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    In niche areas like education you only need a small army of people to overrun the rest of the population that isnt really involved or engaged.
     
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  16. tampagtr

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    Truth
     
  17. ursidman

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    Bug Tussle NC
    Just teach without taking sides.

     
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  18. duggers_dad

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    Of course. What do you do with a house when it’s overcome with rot ?
     
  19. philnotfil

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    Most counties you only need a few hundred votes to get a school board seat.
     
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