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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by VAg8r1, Nov 1, 2024 at 9:17 PM.

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  1. Nov 2, 2024 at 8:27 AM #21
    QGator2414

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    You are spot on this is not about abortion!

    The Texas Law on abortion has nothing to do treating a patient that has sepsis. Nothing!
     
  2. Nov 2, 2024 at 9:49 AM #22
    AzCatFan

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    The fetus had a heartbeat. Treating the woman's sepsis would have highly likely caused the fetal heartbeat to stop; or otherwise known as an abortion. Under Texas law, as long as there is a fetal heartbeat, doctors cannot do anything that will cause said heartbeat to stop.

    Ergo, doctors could not treat the woman's sepsis until the heartbeat stopped on its own. But by waiting until this occurred, the sepsis became too severe and killed the woman's life.

    What part of this do you refuse to accept and understand? And I ask again, who was saved in this case?
     
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  3. Nov 2, 2024 at 10:09 AM #23
    VAg8r1

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    The Texas law is a vaguely written "heartbeat law". There is always the possibility that an overly aggressive prosecutor could charge a doctor who terminates a pregnancy if the fetus has a heartbeat or any other indicator that it is still alive with violating the statute even if there is virtually no chance of survival. The Texas case bears a remarkable resemblance to similar case in "prolife" Ireland 12 years ago.
    Death of Savita Halappanavar
    On 21 October 2012, Halappanavar, then 17 weeks pregnant, was examined at University Hospital Galway after complaining of back pain, but was soon discharged without a diagnosis. She returned to the hospital later that day, this time complaining of lower pressure, a sensation she described as feeling "something coming down", and a subsequent examination found that the gestational sac was protruding from her body. She was admitted to hospital, as it was determined that miscarriage was unavoidable, and several hours later, just after midnight on 22 October, her water broke but did not expel the fetus.[8]: 22–26 [8]: 29 [9] The following day, on 23 October, Halappanavar discussed abortion with her consulting physician but her request was promptly refused, as Irish law at that time forbade abortion if a foetal heartbeat was still present, with her midwife furthermore stating that "Ireland is a Catholic country".[8]: 33 [10] Afterwards, Halappanavar developed sepsis and, despite doctors' efforts to treat her, had a cardiac arrest at 1:09 AM on 28 October, and died, aged 31.[8]: 53 [8]: 44–46 ​
     
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  4. Nov 2, 2024 at 10:14 AM #24
    FutureGatorMom

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    No, she was pregnant, there was still a heartbeat so they couldn't treat her for the sepsis.
     
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  5. Nov 2, 2024 at 10:16 AM #25
    FutureGatorMom

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    What part of the fetus had a heart beat and they couldn't treat her because of TEXAS LAW is confusing you?
     
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  6. Nov 2, 2024 at 10:47 AM #26
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    Especially given that the Texas AG has gone out of his way to publicly announce that he would do so.
     
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  7. Nov 2, 2024 at 11:12 AM #27
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  8. Nov 2, 2024 at 11:29 AM #28
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    Pro-life when it comes to the womb, but once out, they make no effort via legislation to help those who may need the extra assistance to support the child, make no effort to curb the needless gun violence in schools while proudly wearing their AR-15 lapel pins, and allow the women with non-viable pregnancies to carry to term, many times resulting in death or permanent long term harm to the mother.
     
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