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The NCAA Plans To Finally Enforce NIL Rules, Possibly Endangering Florida Over Rashada Mess

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by ETGator, Feb 2, 2023.

  1. archigator_96

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  2. gtr2x

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    No idea, but you are correct, this aint the place for the question/comments.
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  3. Claygator

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    Did Miami seriously pay him $6 million, only to have him walk? Good grief.

    And the notion of us allegedly agreeing to write UM a $6 million check to reimburse them turns my stomach.

    Complete madness.
     
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  4. MaceoP

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    I prefaced my remarks with "if you believe the athletic article" Miami supposedly paid him a first installment (according to the article) - not sure of the amount but i believe in the 100k range. It never said we paid miami that money back.
     
  5. Wanne15

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    I’m sure just a down payment. Nobody giving that kind of cash upfront.
     
  6. Claygator

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    It seems to me that one NIL rule needs to be that there can be no mention of an NIL deal, much less an NIL deal, until the kid has signed with a school. Any deviation from this is a serious recruiting violation. After the kid has signed then NIL can happen.

    How you manage that, I have no clue.
     
  7. 96Gatorcise

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    That would be tough.
    If a state allows high schoolers to sign NIl you can't stop them.
    CA allows it. It's why Rashada was able to take the installment.
     
  8. Wanne15

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    It doesn’t matter either way loi means nothing anyway
     
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  9. EbSaxman

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    I think the way it has always been done. Alabama gets a pass, other sacred cows get a pass, the rest get thrown under the bus. Life moves on.
     
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  10. northgagator

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    From the past season or two and up to current (today) the State of Florida has basically put a gag order on the Athletic Departments at the state colleges. The current law states that the representatives of the college and or the athletic departments can not encourage or discourage NIL deals with a recruit and or student athlete.

    The "encourage or discourage" clause made NIL's to dangerous for coaches to discuss.

    Also, there are not any restrictions from the NCAA or its member schools on when the NIL can be signed (before or after signing the LOI).

    Thus many if not all of the coaches/recruiters/admins are staying away from NIL subject when talking/communicating with recruits and student athletes.
     
  11. INGATORSWETRUST

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    Would be humorous to sanction a program for a player not joining a school rather than the programs that actually paid millions and had a kid join them. In this case, the old Florida State law insulates UF, as it states UF can’t be involved or aware of decisions on payment. The law created the separation and lack of institutional involvement.
     
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  12. Crusher

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    As Lee Corso says: Not so fast, my friend. I believe that UAA publicly recognized the "organization that shall not be named." It seems like I got an email with them named as perhaps partners or some such designation...I can't recall the specifics. This all happened prior to the Rashada mess. This other "organization" includes(ed) prominent UF alumni/boosters. Considering that technically that this "organization" is a booster group and still against NCAA rules to offer anything of value to a recruit, I don't think we are completely out of the woods yet. Personally, though, I can't see how the NCAA can sanction one school without doing the same with every one that has set up the same type of collective (almost all).
     
  13. Wanne15

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    It’s just a really dumb law. I wonder what the sc judges think when they have to rule on something like this. They probably aren’t biased like tge ncaa and their intelligence may be insulted by the transparency of pay for play. I mean they are lawyers so you never know. They did learn to prove their case irregardless of reality.
     
  14. maxgator

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    Holy hell Batman... What a thread filled with supposition, exaggeration and conspiracy!
     
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  15. your_perfect_enemy

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    With the SC ruling, I've been curious how a state can prohibit a HS student from getting NIL (I believe FL does, or did), I don't see how it's any different from a college player. Will Grier's brother made some money off of vine as a non-athlete why shouldn't an Arch Manning or Bronny James be allowed to. Seems like another lawsuit just waiting to happen
     
  16. Gatorchip

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    With this new circumstantial evidence rule, someone could just write a baseless article and the NCAA can take action. Neat.

    I heard Georgia had 20 NIL violations. Someone make that a story and link this post as a source.
     
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    Nothingburger
     
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  18. tigator2019

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    In my head--- UF
    Many states are moving to NIL for high schoolers

    IT'S VERY DIFFERENT.

    Enforceability: A HS kid is (usually) a minor and so he/she can't sign a contract, or actually take on NIL stuff if required in a writing.

    Parents are the ones who sign documents/take funds/negotiate


    Kids play club sports like soccer, lacrosse, AAU ... would an NIL law allow a kid to -for example - sign with an ECNL soccer team while a junior in HS?AAU in Atlanta has some shady characters around it.

    HS? Well a kid has to enroll in a public school by rule (residency, etc). What if there is a school like Woodward in ATL that decides not only will it recruit, but NIL deals will happen in 9th grade?

    What if the kids says to heck with it my parents are fighting over MY money, i'm done? No contract is enforceable against a 16 year old?

    Can't sue the kid over that- would have to be parents. Not sure what a court would do if there isn't performance by a minor.
     
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  19. GatorBowl1969

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    What? If not here then where? This is not a Too Hot subject IMO. IF a coach and player did this then they deserve scrutiny.
     
  20. philnotfil

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    If more states allow NIL money for high school kids, and Florida doesn't, we will see sports academies like IMG moving out of state if they can pay players in other states but not Florida. It will be like the AAU teams steering players to schools that have contracts with the same apparel companies sponsoring the teams, but more open and way amped up.

    I can see some college teams with deep pockets (Oregon, Phil Knight could afford a high school built for football recruiting) funding a sports academy and getting rising high school kids a paycheck and close contact with former players as a part of their overall recruiting strategy.