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The MAGA cult explained

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  1. BLING

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    I have to assume she was taking about something specific, like a neo-Nazi rally in the community. (Looked it up, apparantly some neo-Nazi’s wanted to build a “training ground” and the locals and state said “no thanks”.)

    Even trying to give her that benefit of the doubt is only slightly less “xxxxing wow”, and shows why you should never ever go to bat for Nazi’s of any kind.
     
  2. tampagtr

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  3. Gatoragman

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    Talk about spreading misinformation!!!
     
  4. Gatoragman

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    I really wasn't trying to be a smarta$$. I was just saying yes, a lot of gdp comes from cities but not going to do you much good if you don't have anything to eat that obviously mostly comes from rural. We can argue which is more important, but I would say both are and settle with that we need both rather than trying to diminish the importance one or the other.
     
  5. philnotfil

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    I don't know about confirmed as in someone has pulled down his pants and visually verified, but people that have worked with him have asserted that he does wear diapers and regularly soil himself.

    (if you click through, they cited their sources, so you don't have to take some anonymous redditor's word for it)


    The comic Noel Casler worked on Celebrity Apprentice for six seasons. Unlike his colleagues, Casler thwarted his nondisclosure agreement, enabling him to tell us the unvarnished truth about Trump:

    He's [Trump] incontinent from all the speed, all the Adderall he does, the cocaine that he has done for decades. All that stuff has a laxative effect on your bowels and his are uncontrollable.

    Casler said that Trump has been wearing 'diapers since probably the 90s'. Adding that they often had to stop the show in order for Trump to change his diaper, Casler said that Keith Schiller's job was to take Trump offset and wipe him down. "Our nickname for Keith was wet wipes."

    Casler added that Trump does it and he almost sits there unaware of it, and one time he saw Ivanka have to kind of go whisper in his ear and then Keith came and took him offstage.
     
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  6. tampagtr

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    I have finally figured out Trump and MAGA.

    The perfect weapon. Trump's a Trisolaran creation, made by the Sophons to stop human progress and make humanity despondent about saving itself, feeling like it's not worth it.
     
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  7. tilly

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    All manned by a plethora of good ol' rural suthin' boys.
     
  8. citygator

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    Meh... Pretty much totally reflective of populations size. Thank God Cali is keeping us safe!!! All 10 states in top 10 service members are top 10 population states except Virginia. Virginia is not a top 10 population its 12. THe top 4 are in exact population order. Georgia and NC are a few spots higher in servicemen than populations and Penn and Illinois a few spots lower but the people serving America are.. get this.. Americans.

    https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/files/cow/imce/costs/social/Troop Numbers By State_Costs of War_FINAL.pdf
    Servicement post 9/11 wars by state:"
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  9. wgbgator

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    Bringing it back to the original topic here

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/04/white-rural-rage-criticism/677967/

     
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    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/04/05/white-rural-rage-myth-00150395

     
  11. Gatoragman

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    Is that based on numbers only or is that based as percent of population in each state?
     
  12. ursidman

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    Just finished the book. The research that is, in turn, praised or criticized is largely not that of the authors. They use dozens of published studies to make their points over and over. It does make one admire the ability of Republicans to convince rural white voters to keep voting against their best interests.
     
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    The Politico piece is by one of the scholars cited in the book
     
  14. ursidman

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    The author of the Politico piece has looked deeply into the issue and done the work. He is an expert, I am not. He calls the rural attitudes resentment and aggrieved - not of rage. OK. Some difference of degree there I guess. I live in such a place - small (1,630) mountain town 81% white, 5% AA, 70%+ trump voters and the last redoubt of Eric Rudolph. The Politico author is correct in that there is a deep sense of place but that also carries with it deep tribalism - they don’t like outsiders.
    And what he describes sounds more benign than my experiences. I once sat and listened to the owner of a barbershop here shortly after the 2020 election as he loudly pontificated for one and all about how he was going to get his AR-15 and start shooting Democrats and go out sitting on a pile of spent brass - I don’t think that was a result of poor messaging by Dems. In our little BLM march put together by HS students and where the Sheriff gave the keynote speech, heavily armed MAGA men lined the street just beyond the barricades (guns were prohibited for 2 hours in the parade route) as they were convinced Antifa was going to loot and pillage the town.
    A local business has signs asking Biden voters to go elsewhere and another that says Liberals not wanted and F your climate change. There is a guy who must live e near me because I see him regularly who took a can of spray paint and expressed his grievance in large red letters along the side of his truck: F (spelled out) Joe Biden. Maybe the Democrats just haven’t formulated the correct msg for theses guys. Also possible that other politicians use fear and anger to chase votes.
     
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  15. citygator

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    You cant fight with a percentage of people, you fight with people. However, whatever percentage variations exist they dont shake up where people are coming from much. Like I said, a few more from GA and NC and a few less in IL and PA but by and large in population order in the top 10 otherwise. The report I linked says the two biggest factors driving the percent of a state are: 1. number of bases 2. Poverty. Coast and south have most of the bases and the south has most of the poverty so, as a percentage the coast and south are higher, but again, it doesnt shake up where people come from that much.
     
  16. Gatoragman

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    No i agree with % doesn't fight anybody. I was just trying to compare if rural areas might put 1 in 100 into service vs populated areas that might put 2 in 10,000.
     
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    A bat and a ball cost $1.10 in total. The bat costs $1.00 more than the ball. How much does the ball cost?

    Think about it and post the answer if you like. I'll get to the point in a subsequent post.
     
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    People Who Jump to Conclusions Show Other Kinds of Thinking Errors | Scientific American

    An article in Scientific American reports on a study on people who jump to conclusions and the connection to those who believe conspiracy theories. Psychologist David Dunning took part in the research.

    "How much time do you spend doing research before you make a big decision? The answer for many of us, it turns out, is hardly any. Before buying a car, for instance, most people make two or fewer trips to a dealership. And when picking a doctor, many individuals simply use recommendations from friends and family rather than consulting medical professionals or sources such as health-care websites or articles on good physicians, according to an analysis published in the journal Health Services Research.

    "We are not necessarily conserving our mental resources to spend them on even weightier decisions. One in five Americans spends more time planning their upcoming vacation than they do on their financial future. There are people who go over every detail exhaustively before making a choice, and it is certainly possible to overthink things. But a fair number of individuals are quick to jump to conclusions. Psychologists call this way of thinking a cognitive bias, a tendency toward a specific mental mistake. In this case, the error is making a call based on the sparsest of evidence."
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    Research has revealed quick judgments often indicate larger error-prone patterns in behavior and thinking. These patterns can cost, as people who make jumps in their reasoning will often choose to take chances where they have low chances of winning instead of making a choice where their chances are better.

    Researchers found hasty judgments are often one part of "larger error-prone patterns in behavior and thinking." In a field of more than 600 people they examined decision making patterns using a thinking game borrowed from schizophrenia studies as jumping to conclusions is common among schizophrenics.
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    "In this game, players encountered someone who was fishing from one of two lakes: in one lake, most of the fish were red; in the other, most were gray. The fisher would catch one fish at a time and stop only when players thought they could say which lake was being fished. Some players had to see many fish before making a decision. Others—the jumpers—stopped after only one or two.

    "We also asked participants questions to learn more about their thought patterns. We found that the fewer fish a player waited to see, the more errors that individual made in other types of beliefs, reasoning and decisions."
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    It was observed the ealier people jumped to their conclusion the more likely they were to believe conspiracy theories.

    The study discusses two systems of thought - system 1 - "which reflects ideas that come to the mind easily, spontaneously and without effort," and system 2- "comprising conscious and effortful reasoning that is analytical, mindful and deliberate."
    Researchers determined that jumpers and nonjumpers were equally swayed by automatic (system 1) thoughts, but jumpers did not engage in controlled (system 2) reasoning to the same degree as nonjumpers.

    The researchers determined jumpers were more likely to accept the conclusions they made before or without deliberative examination or questioning. A lack of system 2 thinking was also more broadly connected to problematic beliefs and faulty reasoning.
     
  19. higator85

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    they don’t call him Shitstain for nothing. He’s filthy without the depends