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The Left is terrified of DeSantis and wants Trump for the nominee: Change my mind

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Vindibudd, May 26, 2023.

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  1. Contra

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    I was born with an inherent attraction to the opposite sex. It was not a choice. Nonetheless, the fact that people go on dating apps and describe themselves as bi-curious shows it is not genetically programmed. The fact that sexually abused children are LGBTQ at a higher rate shows that it is not a genetic mechanism.

    I view it like alcohol addiction, nicotine addiction, gambling addiction, drug addiction, pedophilia addiction, serial killer addiction, etc. No one is born an alcoholic, a drug addict, a nicotine addict, a pedophilia addict, or a serial killer addict. Some things are wired, but they are wired by doing. Sometimes the best way to not get wired to do something is to not do it in the first place.

    I think it is also lost that the addict still makes choices. He's not a complete slave to his passions. If a person walked up with a gun and said "I'll shoot you if you smoke that joint," then the person would all of the sudden have the self-control to reign in their passions. The behavior changes because motivation changes. The problem with most people who are enslaved addicts is they lack the motivation to change. They want to change, but they don't want to change. People often need a come to Jesus moment to overcome their addictions.
     
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  2. dangolegators

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    Just curious, what is your educational background? Do you work with addicts?
     
  3. Contra

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    I don't have a professional degree in any area related to addiction. What I wrote is opinion. It is a free country. You can agree or you can disagree.
     
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    No doubt he’d disagree but not for the reasons you’d think. He’s being intellectually dishonest by asking a question that can’t be answered in the terms he’s asking. Sexuality isn’t a particular genetic trait but is polygenic in that there are hundreds or even thousands of genes that contribute to a person’s sexuality. It’s like a person’s proclivity to be a thrill seeker while their siblings and parents want nothing to do with it. He wants you to provide proof that there is a gay gene knowing full well there’s no specific answer to his question.
     
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    Maybe you have an opinion addiction, sometimes the best way to deal with that is to not do it in the first place
     
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  7. dangolegators

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    Well it was obvious you have no actual knowledge about the subject. So it's a relief that you don't have any actual training or experience in the area.
     
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    Another drop in the bucket of your nasty, mean-spirited posts.
     
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  9. Contra

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    That is not a very promising explanation. Even if we account for polygenic causes, even that data only explains 8% to 25% of same-sex attraction. That is hardly the slam dunk this was represented to be.

    There is no ‘gay gene.’ There is no ‘straight gene.’ Sexuality is just complex, study confirms | PBS NewsHour
     
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    You are probably the best judge of nasty mean spirited posts. With all your experience and all.
     
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    If your sexual orientation is inherent, seems others' is as well.

    According to the article you posted earlier, sexual attraction is influenced by biology, psychology, and life experiences. That complexity and lack of any single "sexual orientation gene" is consistent with what I've heard in the past. I admittedly haven't focused on studying that potential breakdown, but my sexual orientation wasn't a choice or decision. I have no reason to think it was for people who are homosexual or those who are bisexual. I'm not sure why you think people being bi-curious or bisexual establishes anything - one way or the other - about the potential role of genetics, other biological factors, or other factors generally.

    Even if we put aside our intuitions about sexual attraction not being a choice, we can specifically analyze the three factors of biology, psychology, and life experiences. Which of those do kids choose prior to being aware of their sexual orientation? I knew I liked girls since I can remember - age 4 or 5. It's not we had control over these factors.

    I think acting on urges is a different issue than having urges in the first place. One man can be heterosexual and choose to be celibate while another can choose to cheat on his wife.
     
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    FYI: Polls since Ron DeSantis announcement from 538.
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    Can we get an update on the latest RNC polls?
     
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    This thread didn't age well.
     
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    Looks like the right are the ones that are terrified of Desantis
     
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    Yeah, and not the least part because he's so freakishly tall. :emoji_boot:
     
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    I never really paid that much attention to his boots thing ... but really, what is going on here? There are a bunch of pics like this, with his freaky long heals and empty looking toe areas.

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