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The Inconvenient Truth of Palestine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by swampspring, Oct 12, 2023.

  1. okeechobee

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    Must admit a devious grin crept across my face reading the last part of solution #1.
     
  2. gator_lawyer

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    "You can't cure killed babies with more dead babies. We need peace."
    -Son of one of the Israelis currently missing
     
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  3. gator_lawyer

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  4. cocodrilo

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    Has Egypt given any reason why it will not allow in any refugees from Gaza? So much for the Verse of Brotherhood in the Quran. ("Believers are but brothers, so make settlement between your brothers.")

    I remember reading years ago that the Arab states don't really care about the Palestinians except to keep the Israeli-Palestinian turmoil going. Egypt seems to be silently saying exactly that to the people in Gaza. "Too bad, you're staying right where you are."
     
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  5. tampagtr

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    The IDF is now disputing responsibility. Reports of “booby traps on the road” (mines?) and digital image manipulation
     
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  6. tampagtr

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    Tlaib with another highly offensive statement - valuing all lives regardless of ethnicity. How abhorrent

     
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  7. GatorNorth

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    Good luck with #1 with the Temple Mount sitting in the middle of Jerusalem. Even the most war fervent of Jews know that would be a declaration of a Holy War far worse than what exists today.
     
  8. uftaipan

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    Without question. That would never happen. My point is that to remove the unending friction you would have to remove not only the people but also the reasons those people would demand to come back, one of which would be the Islamic holy sites.
     
  9. GatorNorth

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    My hope has always been that it was the existence of the holy sites that keeps the peace but as each side radicalizes a bit more, that hope diminishes.

    It took my standing in front of the Western Wall for the first time in 2017 for me to finally understand the dynamics that I’d only previously read about. It’s a uniquely special confluence of religion, history, culture and symbolism.
     
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  10. cocodrilo

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    Heard Nikki Haley this morning say that the Arab countries will do nothing to help the people of Gaza. She's right.

    Then there's DeSantis, who said that all the Palestinians aren't Hamas, but they're all anti-Semitic and against Israel's right to exist. He's wrong, but his position is apparently to hell with them. He's determined to come across as such a nice guy. He has already said he wants to start "slitting throats" in government when he's president. He sounds like a terrorist at heart.
     
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  11. GCNumber7

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    Ethnic cleaning brings a smile to your face? You are saying the quiet part out loud again.
     
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  12. tampagtr

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    There is some pushback online about the validity of the so-called top secret plans that NBC acquired. I'm not qualified to judge, but apparently the Arabic in it sounds like it came out of a translator instead of being natural.

    I was wondering about them because they seem to presuppose that they would have hours inside Israel. That turned out to be the case but it is hard to believe that that was part of the plan, that they knew the IDF would not respond for hours
     
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  13. mutz87

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    I shouldn't have written that I didn't see it as much as a trap when that is the impetus for committing such atrocities in the first place.
     
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  15. gator_lawyer

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    The person you're quoting on Twitter is disagreeing that it is misinformation and saying that Haaretz has the quote that is in the article I posted, so I'm not sure what that tweet is supposed to prove.
     
  16. tampagtr

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    Grotesque

    Police in the United States have charged a 71-year-old man with murder and hate crime for fatally stabbing a six-year-old boy and seriously wounding his 32-year-old mother, alleging he singled out the victims because of their faith and as a response to the war between Israel and Hamas.

    “Detectives were able to determine that both victims in this brutal attack were targeted by the suspect due to them being Muslim and the on-going Middle Eastern conflict involving Hamas and the Israelis,” the Will County Sheriff’s Office in suburban Chicago said in a statement on Sunday.


    Palestinian-American boy stabbed to death in Gaza war-related killing in US
     
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  17. gatorpa

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    You answered your own question.
    From what I understand the Arab world likes the Jews just a bit less than the Palestinians.
     
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  18. tampagtr

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    Abu Mazen distancing

     
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  19. tampagtr

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    5 hour ceasefire to evacuate foreigners

     
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