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The Illusion of Moral Decline

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by citygator, Dec 19, 2023.

  1. murphree_hall

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    Overrun with trans? Maybe I live in the wrong part of the country, but I live in South Florida… a place traditionally friendly to the LGBTQ community and it is a very rare sight to see a trans person that I can recognize as a trans.

    Mass shootings are a copycat crime. The reason why they are prevalent today is because the concept was introduced. That… and the lack of sensible gun control laws.
     
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  2. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

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    Tongue-in-cheek. No such degeneracy in the 70’s when I was in school. And mass-shootings were almost unheard of. No, things weren’t squeaky clean. There was smoking in the bathrooms and the occasional fistfight down at the oak tree.
     
  3. citygator

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    The 70's were violent. Interestingly enough... when you started school in the 70's violence increased and when you left in the early 90's so did the violence.

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  4. duggers_dad

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    Don’t remember any school shootings. The most excitement we ever had was the occasional bomb scare hoax.
     
  5. mdgator05

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    In my day, we waited until after school to shoot people, like a good moral society should!
     
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  6. murphree_hall

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    Mass shootings like the ones we are having are a copycat crime. Already explained it. If one person had come up with the idea to do it back then, you would have seen it be a phenomenon back then as well.
     
  7. mrhansduck

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    There was reportedly a riot a couple years before I got to my middle school, and the place had such a bad reputation that people were telling my dad to send me somewhere else. He refused to do that.

    When I went, the surrounding neighborhood had people out on their front porch who looked like they never went to sleep. There was one street we passed by each day on the bus that my friends who would know told me to never go down - obviously gangs and drug dealing, though I never personally saw any drugs. There were constant fights, and I got into a few myself. One day, there were reports of a to-be riot and the school was locked down. One guy I knew got caught with a hammer, and there were other weapons found that day. Lots of kids talked about being sexually active - heterosexually of course. Couple of my friends brought hunch punch to a school carnival and were day drinking and no one noticed. I was just shocked by how brazen they were. Our school resource officer was a friend of the family and told me some years later I think about getting into a fist fight with one of the bigger students after school.
     
  8. duggers_dad

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    Comparatively, it was like living in a Norman Rockwell painting for me. I did have a bicycle stolen.
     
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  9. cocodrilo

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    When I was in high school the big worry was being nuked by the Russians. My uncle who lived next door turned his basement into a bomb shelter. Me, I simply read Mad Magazine. As its Alfred E. Neuman said, "What, me worry?"
     
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  10. tilly

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    Thats sorta what the bible is saying. Christian humans are evil too.
     
  11. cocodrilo

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    Humans weren't cut out to be Christian. Turn the other cheek? Sure. Love thy neighbor? You ought to meet mine.
     
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  12. wgbgator

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    Sounds like if they turned the other cheek you wouldnt refuse to slap it
     
  13. mrhansduck

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    I tend to agree, as there's likely good and bad in all of us.

    Having said that, if humans are evil (including Christians, atheists, Muslims, agnostics, etc.) and if both Christians and non-Christians alike do both good things and evil things, what of the notion that Christians (or "real" Christians) are known by their fruits? Perhaps I'm mixing different concepts since I believe that verse was specifically about false prophets. But I've heard people argue that so-and-so can't be a true Christian because a true Christian wouldn't do what that person did. I have a hard time reconciling that with the simultaneous understanding that Christians are evil and do evil things, too. I think that's also a "No true Scotsman" fallacy, but that's probably a further digression.
     
  14. citygator

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    Humans aren't evil by default but occasionally selfish. The optimal state for a human to survive is with the cooperation of other humans which doesn't come from practicing evil. However within that context humans do default to some selfish activities under a cooperative umbrella of behavior.
     
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  15. duggers_dad

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    At the height of the Cold War we were actually talking to the Russians.
     
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    You’re being governed for whining about increasing mass-shootings.
     
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    Source ?
     
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  18. mdgator05

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    Was this supposed to be English? Because it sounds more like a knock-off, Russian Google Translate sentence.
     
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  19. cocodrilo

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    Maybe you're too young to remember the Cuban Missile Crisis. World War III at any moment with the blockade.
     
  20. citygator

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    Source?