The Future of the United States and Western Society

slayerxing · Jun 19, 2023

cflgator83 said: ↑

Fair warning: This is going to be a long post.

This is not going to be a purely political or partisan topic. But more of a general topic of the mindset of how a Conservative sees the world and where we are going. I know for many of the board libs on here nothing will change your mind about how you see us, but for some who have open minds maybe I'll provide a new perspective.

I'll flat out say I am planning on this being my final thread on here for awhile. Perhaps forever but at least for awhile. This board has shown me the depth of our problems as a society.

In some ways I'll give you all a victory. I'll admit defeat and admit I just don't care anymore. Up until 100 years ago what is happening at the southern border would've been considered nothing else but an invasion and would've been treated like an invasion, with proper military force to repel the invasion. Now the border is open and the invasion is greeted with open arms. As the U.S. no longer has a border I would argue the U.S. is no longer a legitimate country, simply an economic zone. I will refer to this U.S. in this term for my post.

But to get to the point, I just don't care anymore. About this economic zone, this society or people in general. The economic zone formerly known as the U.S. is the Roman Empire and will fall just like the Roman Empire did. It's inevitable in my view.

I look around and I see a society that not only doesn't care about forgotten people like me, but actively hates us. As a Conservative straight white male I am hated in this economic zone. Heck I'm not even that religious but if I was religious I would be hated that much more. I was looking at YouTube videos yesterday and stumbled upon an old 60's TV show that I've watched a few episode of. The biggest thing I noticed? The wholesome family image that largely doesn't consist in this economic zone anymore and the fact that straight white males were actually respected and valued. Now in TV shows, the straight white male is either the comic relief, the stupid idiot dad character (think Simpsons or Family Guy) that we laugh at or the evil villain that we utterly hate. But never in a position of respect or value.

Many liberals wish that straight white men like me didn't even exist. Many of us Conservatives see that it's only white countries where diversity (aka bring in more minorities) is demanded. I never see any demand that Japan or China bring in more non-Asians. I never see any demand that Brazil or Argentina bring in more non-Hispanics. I never see any demand that Morocco, Egypt or Israel bring in more non-Middle Easterners. And I sure as heck never see any demand that an African or Caribbean country (Jamaica, Bahamas, Dominican Republic, Virgin Islands) bring in more non-Blacks. Why is it that white countries are the only ones expected to diversify?

Many of you liberals have asked how Conservatives could support Donald Trump. Simple, for all his flaws, Trump actually fought for us. He actually cared about us. Donald Trump was the one many who I thought could possibly turn it around. But the establishment and Washington elite made sure that didn't happen and it crushed my hopes of things ever truly getting better long term. You all tell me not vote for Trump. So who should I vote for? DeSantis, who is bought and paid for by Bushes and people like Murdock? Controlled opposition, nothing more. Biden, who just said people like me are the greatest threat to national security? Biden would have me eliminated if he could. Newsome, who wants all whites to pay for crimes they didn't commit? Absolutely no way. I will never accept that I should have to pay the price for a crime I never committed. The reality is no one in the Washington elite cares about any of us. Trump actually did care. And that is why the Washington elite will fight so hard to destroy him.

What you all don't understand is that Donal Trump was just the figure. The figure who actually would fight for things like a secured border, capitalistic policies while also protecting the U.S. from predatory companies from China, school choice and a demand that we try our best to live in a post racial society. Where we have equality, not equity.

Many of you on here claim to be against discrimination. I call BS on that. Many on here, whether they know it or not, are completely okay with discrimination. The only thing is they have been able to change who it's okay to discriminate against. And that is whites and to a lesser (but no less significant) extent Asians. I fear where that discrimination will go. Reeducation camps? Restrictions on freedom of movement? Eventual elimination? We've all seen this story before. It's already happening in South Africa with white farmers losing their land and whites being systemically eliminated but yet we do nothing because it's okay. It's okay because it's whites being systemically eliminated and not another race. We see Asians being denied educational opportunities in this economic zone. It's okay because it's Asians. If it was the other way around you all would be losing your minds.

Many of you here say Conservatives are driven by anger and fear. Yes we are driven by anger and fear, but not due to truly hating others but because of what others plan to do to us. As a Conservative yes I do fear being replaced. I fear seeing the culture I grew up being replaced. I worry about silly thing such as:
- Soccer replacing Football
- Machaca's, Taco's and Burrito's replacing Hot Dogs, Mashed Potatoes and Apple Pie.
- Day of the Dead replacing Halloween

But I care about far more consequential things such as:
- Spanish replacing English by the majority of the economic zone to the point where I am a foreigner in my own former country.
- Spanish influences on things like religion and politics.
- Whites become a permanent minority and underclass.

For all the trashing of whites, modern day whites are the only race in human history to put the needs of other races above their own. When whites are no longer the majority Hispanics and Blacks will not do the same. I worry about us being second class citizens. I worry about us being the ones who will be discriminated against. I worry about us being the ones who will be put into camps. I worry about us being the ones who will ultimately be eliminated through genocide and beyond that just been breeded out.

But again, I just don't care anymore. Nothing will ever change and this economic zone will continue to collapse. If anything the collapse will accelerate with time. Someone like Biden hates whites and most liberals hate whites but yet whites are the ones who are expected to join the military and give their lives for an economic zone that hates them. I hope that white males refuse to join the military in droves. Patriotism, it's so dumb now. Patriotism for what?

It's ironic that Conservatives and whites and hated in this economic zone, but are still expected to contribute and go into work every day. Maybe I should beat you liberals at your own game, quit my job and just go on the government dole. Wouldn't that be ironic?

I feel truly stateless and truly unrepresented. I am no longer faithful to the economic zone formerly known as the U.S. Part of me genuinely hopes the whole thing fails and collapses. I have no kids so it wouldn't impact them if the whole thing crumbles. I have no real investment in it anyway.

It would be ironic if all those Hispanics who have moved here turn the U.S. into the same sh*thole country that they were desperately trying to escape. That they turn the U.S. into an economic zone no better than Venezuela, Colombia, Honduras or Nicarauga. That's the route it's going.

Whether you all like it or not, diversity is not a strength once it goes past a certain level. What is one thing that everything in the U.S. shares? One belief? One cultural norm? One unifying trait? The answer is nothing. A white man in the U.S. has more in common with a white man in Australia than a black man in the U.S.. An Asian woman with heritage from Japan has more in common with a Japanese woman than a Hispanic woman in the U.S. A Hispanic man from Venezuela has more in common with a woman from Venezuela than they do a white woman in the U.S. When there is no shared culture, no homogeneity, nothing that binds a country together, it is no longer a country, and failure and collapse are assured.

It all feels very hopeless and that is the life of a lot of Conservatives. The treatment of Trump and his followers shows the path that the treatment of Conservatives and eventually whites will take in this country.

Again Trump was just the figure. When I would go to Trump rallies I would feel at ease, knowing that I had finally found my people. These are the people who I understood and who understood me. Of course it didn't help that I'm 39 (of course at that point back in 2015/2016 I was 32/33) and most of the other supporters were in their 50s at the least. That told me all I needed to know, that God had made a mistake and that I was born in the wrong time. I should've been born in the boomer generation. Sure I would be older now but I would've been in a generation that my mind could understand and comprehend. I don't understand, comprehend or like the world we are in now.

I am in a world that rejects me. But even worse than that, I know I am in a world that no longer needs me or wants me. That is the life of a straight white conservative man in today's U.S. There is no place for me in this world so I just don't care anymore. But I'll make sure to grab some popcorn and enjoy myself when the whole place starts to burn.

In a way it is freeing. This economic zone is on an irreversible path and nothing can be done to save it. Politics, policy, people, community, none of it truly matter anymore. Knowing that it can't be saved, the only joy now is truly to embrace the coming anarchy and chaos and that is what I will do. Farewell for now, Gator Country.
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Listen my friend, nothing is ever as bad as it seems.
The internet literally brings out humanities worst qualities, so taking a break might be good for you.
Keep in mind that so much of what we consume from the internet is designed to make us angry, scared, or outraged. Best case, some people do that to sell newspapers, some people do it to manipulate us. In either case, I encourage you to step away from the computer and go outside.
There are sports leagues all over town. Join one. Meet people. Hang out. Make friends. Have a drink. Avoid talking about politics.
If you can't play sports anymore, consider table top games, or cards, or chess, or something that you can do with other people.
There are communities all over this country that have groups of people coming together for stuff like that.
Go to an arcade, go out and sip some coffee, go sit in a field and listen to the wind blow.
The world is not all doom and gloom I promise - but it doesn't matter what I say. You have to believe it. Only you can make yourself happy. You have to decide to be happy.
So do something to be happy. Buy a new game for your PS5 and just enjoy it. Go fishing. Pick up gardening. Go for a hike, ride a bike, pick up bird watching.
Find something that makes you happy and go do it.
And stop worrying about all this other shit.
Please

Orange_and_Bluke · Jun 19, 2023

slayerxing said: ↑

Listen my friend, nothing is ever as bad as it seems.
The internet literally brings out humanities worst qualities, so taking a break might be good for you.
Keep in mind that so much of what we consume from the internet is designed to make us angry, scared, or outraged. Best case, some people do that to sell newspapers, some people do it to manipulate us. In either case, I encourage you to step away from the computer and go outside.
There are sports leagues all over town. Join one. Meet people. Hang out. Make friends. Have a drink. Avoid talking about politics.
If you can't play sports anymore, consider table top games, or cards, or chess, or something that you can do with other people.
There are communities all over this country that have groups of people coming together for stuff like that.
Go to an arcade, go out and sip some coffee, go sit in a field and listen to the wind blow.
The world is not all doom and gloom I promise - but it doesn't matter what I say. You have to believe it. Only you can make yourself happy. You have to decide to be happy.
So do something to be happy. Buy a new game for your PS5 and just enjoy it. Go fishing. Pick up gardening. Go for a hike, ride a bike, pick up bird watching.
Find something that makes you happy and go do it.
And stop worrying about all this other shit.
Please
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Hey libbies do get it right on occasion!
Well said.

PITBOSS · Jun 19, 2023

BigCypressGator1981 said: ↑

At least you won't have to be miserable much longer.
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that’s a horrible thing to say to someone who just mentioned they are quite ill.

Sohogator · Jun 19, 2023

slayerxing said: ↑

Listen my friend, nothing is ever as bad as it seems.
The internet literally brings out humanities worst qualities, so taking a break might be good for you.
Keep in mind that so much of what we consume from the internet is designed to make us angry, scared, or outraged. Best case, some people do that to sell newspapers, some people do it to manipulate us. In either case, I encourage you to step away from the computer and go outside.
There are sports leagues all over town. Join one. Meet people. Hang out. Make friends. Have a drink. Avoid talking about politics.
If you can't play sports anymore, consider table top games, or cards, or chess, or something that you can do with other people.
There are communities all over this country that have groups of people coming together for stuff like that.
Go to an arcade, go out and sip some coffee, go sit in a field and listen to the wind blow.
The world is not all doom and gloom I promise - but it doesn't matter what I say. You have to believe it. Only you can make yourself happy. You have to decide to be happy.
So do something to be happy. Buy a new game for your PS5 and just enjoy it. Go fishing. Pick up gardening. Go for a hike, ride a bike, pick up bird watching.
Find something that makes you happy and go do it.
And stop worrying about all this other shit.
Please
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How they heck can you take this nonsense and all his subsequent posts that followed at face value? This is for the most part a board full of pretty intelligent people. I assume good heartedness is to blame but come one. Man I can see why scammers from Nigeria are so successful.

Sohogator · Jun 19, 2023

PITBOSS said: ↑

that’s a horrible thing to say to someone who just mentioned they are quite ill.
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We can see the BS. Smell it actually.

Also his he said his doctors can find nothing wrong.

slayerxing · Jun 19, 2023

[QUOTE="Sohogator said: ↑

How they heck can you take this nonsense and all his subsequent posts that followed at face value? This is for the most part a board full of pretty intelligent people. I assume good heartedness is to blame but come one. Man I can see why scammers from Nigeria are so successful.
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It costs me nothing to be nice on this forum. Maybe it's a troll post. Oh well. I'll live.
I don't always live by that rule - but it felt right today.

BigCypressGator1981 · Jun 19, 2023

PITBOSS said: ↑

that’s a horrible thing to say to someone who just mentioned they are quite ill.
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I’m not a fan of racist diatribes. Zero patience for that shit.

tigator2019 · Jun 19, 2023

Go live your best life OP

Orange_and_Bluke · Jun 19, 2023

This thread has shown us the best in some of our posters.
Thanks for sharing cfl. Hope you’re feeling better.

lacuna · Jun 19, 2023

lacuna said: ↑

Without doubt your projective posts reveal you to be one of the least self aware people posting on this site.
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@Orange_and_Bluke ... and petulant, too!

Orange_and_Bluke · Jun 20, 2023

lacuna said: ↑

@Orange_and_Bluke ... and petulant, too!
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I feel the love…

Orange_and_Bluke · Jun 20, 2023

Orange_and_Bluke said: ↑

I don’t see it that way. You’re a smart dude, but you lack accurate empathy.
This guy is not bitter, he’s feeling other emotions.
You never know what others have going on in their lives and you shouldn’t be so hasty to dismiss.
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@coleg
How is my post funny?

archigator_96 · Jun 20, 2023

slayerxing said: ↑

so much of what we consume from the internet is designed to make us angry, scared, or outraged.
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Or Horny, don't forget Horny.

92gator · Jun 20, 2023

cflgator83 said: ↑

Fair warning: This is going to be a long post.

This is not going to be a purely political or partisan topic. But more of a general topic of the mindset of how a Conservative sees the world and where we are going. I know for many of the board libs on here nothing will change your mind about how you see us, but for some who have open minds maybe I'll provide a new perspective.

I'll flat out say I am planning on this being my final thread on here for awhile. Perhaps forever but at least for awhile. This board has shown me the depth of our problems as a society.

In some ways I'll give you all a victory. I'll admit defeat and admit I just don't care anymore. Up until 100 years ago what is happening at the southern border would've been considered nothing else but an invasion and would've been treated like an invasion, with proper military force to repel the invasion. Now the border is open and the invasion is greeted with open arms. As the U.S. no longer has a border I would argue the U.S. is no longer a legitimate country, simply an economic zone. I will refer to this U.S. in this term for my post.

But to get to the point, I just don't care anymore. About this economic zone, this society or people in general. The economic zone formerly known as the U.S. is the Roman Empire and will fall just like the Roman Empire did. It's inevitable in my view.

I look around and I see a society that not only doesn't care about forgotten people like me, but actively hates us. As a Conservative straight white male I am hated in this economic zone. Heck I'm not even that religious but if I was religious I would be hated that much more. I was looking at YouTube videos yesterday and stumbled upon an old 60's TV show that I've watched a few episode of. The biggest thing I noticed? The wholesome family image that largely doesn't consist in this economic zone anymore and the fact that straight white males were actually respected and valued. Now in TV shows, the straight white male is either the comic relief, the stupid idiot dad character (think Simpsons or Family Guy) that we laugh at or the evil villain that we utterly hate. But never in a position of respect or value.

Many liberals wish that straight white men like me didn't even exist. Many of us Conservatives see that it's only white countries where diversity (aka bring in more minorities) is demanded. I never see any demand that Japan or China bring in more non-Asians. I never see any demand that Brazil or Argentina bring in more non-Hispanics. I never see any demand that Morocco, Egypt or Israel bring in more non-Middle Easterners. And I sure as heck never see any demand that an African or Caribbean country (Jamaica, Bahamas, Dominican Republic, Virgin Islands) bring in more non-Blacks. Why is it that white countries are the only ones expected to diversify?

Many of you liberals have asked how Conservatives could support Donald Trump. Simple, for all his flaws, Trump actually fought for us. He actually cared about us. Donald Trump was the one many who I thought could possibly turn it around. But the establishment and Washington elite made sure that didn't happen and it crushed my hopes of things ever truly getting better long term. You all tell me not vote for Trump. So who should I vote for? DeSantis, who is bought and paid for by Bushes and people like Murdock? Controlled opposition, nothing more. Biden, who just said people like me are the greatest threat to national security? Biden would have me eliminated if he could. Newsome, who wants all whites to pay for crimes they didn't commit? Absolutely no way. I will never accept that I should have to pay the price for a crime I never committed. The reality is no one in the Washington elite cares about any of us. Trump actually did care. And that is why the Washington elite will fight so hard to destroy him.

What you all don't understand is that Donal Trump was just the figure. The figure who actually would fight for things like a secured border, capitalistic policies while also protecting the U.S. from predatory companies from China, school choice and a demand that we try our best to live in a post racial society. Where we have equality, not equity.

Many of you on here claim to be against discrimination. I call BS on that. Many on here, whether they know it or not, are completely okay with discrimination. The only thing is they have been able to change who it's okay to discriminate against. And that is whites and to a lesser (but no less significant) extent Asians. I fear where that discrimination will go. Reeducation camps? Restrictions on freedom of movement? Eventual elimination? We've all seen this story before. It's already happening in South Africa with white farmers losing their land and whites being systemically eliminated but yet we do nothing because it's okay. It's okay because it's whites being systemically eliminated and not another race. We see Asians being denied educational opportunities in this economic zone. It's okay because it's Asians. If it was the other way around you all would be losing your minds.

Many of you here say Conservatives are driven by anger and fear. Yes we are driven by anger and fear, but not due to truly hating others but because of what others plan to do to us. As a Conservative yes I do fear being replaced. I fear seeing the culture I grew up being replaced. I worry about silly thing such as:
- Soccer replacing Football
- Machaca's, Taco's and Burrito's replacing Hot Dogs, Mashed Potatoes and Apple Pie.
- Day of the Dead replacing Halloween

But I care about far more consequential things such as:
- Spanish replacing English by the majority of the economic zone to the point where I am a foreigner in my own former country.
- Spanish influences on things like religion and politics.
- Whites become a permanent minority and underclass.

For all the trashing of whites, modern day whites are the only race in human history to put the needs of other races above their own. When whites are no longer the majority Hispanics and Blacks will not do the same. I worry about us being second class citizens. I worry about us being the ones who will be discriminated against. I worry about us being the ones who will be put into camps. I worry about us being the ones who will ultimately be eliminated through genocide and beyond that just been breeded out.

But again, I just don't care anymore. Nothing will ever change and this economic zone will continue to collapse. If anything the collapse will accelerate with time. Someone like Biden hates whites and most liberals hate whites but yet whites are the ones who are expected to join the military and give their lives for an economic zone that hates them. I hope that white males refuse to join the military in droves. Patriotism, it's so dumb now. Patriotism for what?

It's ironic that Conservatives and whites and hated in this economic zone, but are still expected to contribute and go into work every day. Maybe I should beat you liberals at your own game, quit my job and just go on the government dole. Wouldn't that be ironic?

I feel truly stateless and truly unrepresented. I am no longer faithful to the economic zone formerly known as the U.S. Part of me genuinely hopes the whole thing fails and collapses. I have no kids so it wouldn't impact them if the whole thing crumbles. I have no real investment in it anyway.

It would be ironic if all those Hispanics who have moved here turn the U.S. into the same sh*thole country that they were desperately trying to escape. That they turn the U.S. into an economic zone no better than Venezuela, Colombia, Honduras or Nicarauga. That's the route it's going.

Whether you all like it or not, diversity is not a strength once it goes past a certain level. What is one thing that everything in the U.S. shares? One belief? One cultural norm? One unifying trait? The answer is nothing. A white man in the U.S. has more in common with a white man in Australia than a black man in the U.S.. An Asian woman with heritage from Japan has more in common with a Japanese woman than a Hispanic woman in the U.S. A Hispanic man from Venezuela has more in common with a woman from Venezuela than they do a white woman in the U.S. When there is no shared culture, no homogeneity, nothing that binds a country together, it is no longer a country, and failure and collapse are assured.

It all feels very hopeless and that is the life of a lot of Conservatives. The treatment of Trump and his followers shows the path that the treatment of Conservatives and eventually whites will take in this country.

Again Trump was just the figure. When I would go to Trump rallies I would feel at ease, knowing that I had finally found my people. These are the people who I understood and who understood me. Of course it didn't help that I'm 39 (of course at that point back in 2015/2016 I was 32/33) and most of the other supporters were in their 50s at the least. That told me all I needed to know, that God had made a mistake and that I was born in the wrong time. I should've been born in the boomer generation. Sure I would be older now but I would've been in a generation that my mind could understand and comprehend. I don't understand, comprehend or like the world we are in now.

I am in a world that rejects me. But even worse than that, I know I am in a world that no longer needs me or wants me. That is the life of a straight white conservative man in today's U.S. There is no place for me in this world so I just don't care anymore. But I'll make sure to grab some popcorn and enjoy myself when the whole place starts to burn.

In a way it is freeing. This economic zone is on an irreversible path and nothing can be done to save it. Politics, policy, people, community, none of it truly matter anymore. Knowing that it can't be saved, the only joy now is truly to embrace the coming anarchy and chaos and that is what I will do. Farewell for now, Gator Country.
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About the only thing worth a damn I was able to glean from your entire post sir, was that you don't support Biden or the cancerous left.

Thanks for that.

As to the rest...grow a set, man the #$!@#$ up, and get to living your life, rather than whining about what ain't.

....and may I politely suggest that you put far less a premium on what people think of you, and who cares about you, and a lot more focus on promoting what you care about, and furthering your own interests.

You know...competition...survival of the fittest...only the strong survive...what doesn't kill you makes you stronger...free market/better idea carries the day...that kinda of shit.

FWIW.

92gator · Jun 20, 2023

@cflgator83

(making me feel icky at even induging your self-pity fest, but maybe this'l help you step back from the ledge):

Number of white people in the US alone:

231.9 million (2020)

Population of Russia:

143.4 million (2021)<-----they're pretty much all white there ya' know. Same with Ukraine (do you lament this white on white war? just curious...).

Population of Mexico:

126.7 million (2021)

So the white population in US is roughly the combined population of Russia (again, they're all white there), Plus Mexico (lot's of white folk there too)--which is the most populous latin American country, less California.

IOW, you're precious white seed is no where near extinction, not even close.

Further fun:

U.S. Census Bureau QuickFacts: United States

Census Bureau (.gov)
https://www.census.gov › fact › table › PST045222

White alone, percent.. 75.8% ; Black or African American alone, percent(a).. 13.6% ; American Indian and Alaska Native alone, percent(a).. 1.3%.

Spurffelbow833 · Jun 20, 2023

ursidman said: ↑

Man hates America, society, masses of people complains he feels all alone.
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He's better off alone. I'm 23 years older than him and I thank God for that.

Spurffelbow833 · Jun 20, 2023

Orange_and_Bluke said: ↑

This thread has shown us the best in some of our posters.
Thanks for sharing cfl. Hope you’re feeling better.
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I feel exactly as he does, but I have the happy fortune of having 23 years less left to exist in this economic zone than he does. Not as big on Trump as he is, though. There are no political saviors. He believes there could be one. I don't.

Sohogator · Jun 20, 2023

Spurffelbow833 said: ↑

I feel exactly as he does, but I have the happy fortune of having 23 years less left to exist in this economic zone than he does. Not as big on Trump as he is, though. There are no political saviors. He believes there could be one. I don't.
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They’re a silver lining for in every cloud. For all of us in this instance.

Trickster · Jun 20, 2023

cflgator83 said: ↑

Fair warning: This is going to be a long post.

This is not going to be a purely political or partisan topic. But more of a general topic of the mindset of how a Conservative sees the world and where we are going. I know for many of the board libs on here nothing will change your mind about how you see us, but for some who have open minds maybe I'll provide a new perspective.

I'll flat out say I am planning on this being my final thread on here for awhile. Perhaps forever but at least for awhile. This board has shown me the depth of our problems as a society.

In some ways I'll give you all a victory. I'll admit defeat and admit I just don't care anymore. Up until 100 years ago what is happening at the southern border would've been considered nothing else but an invasion and would've been treated like an invasion, with proper military force to repel the invasion. Now the border is open and the invasion is greeted with open arms. As the U.S. no longer has a border I would argue the U.S. is no longer a legitimate country, simply an economic zone. I will refer to this U.S. in this term for my post.

But to get to the point, I just don't care anymore. About this economic zone, this society or people in general. The economic zone formerly known as the U.S. is the Roman Empire and will fall just like the Roman Empire did. It's inevitable in my view.

I look around and I see a society that not only doesn't care about forgotten people like me, but actively hates us. As a Conservative straight white male I am hated in this economic zone. Heck I'm not even that religious but if I was religious I would be hated that much more. I was looking at YouTube videos yesterday and stumbled upon an old 60's TV show that I've watched a few episode of. The biggest thing I noticed? The wholesome family image that largely doesn't consist in this economic zone anymore and the fact that straight white males were actually respected and valued. Now in TV shows, the straight white male is either the comic relief, the stupid idiot dad character (think Simpsons or Family Guy) that we laugh at or the evil villain that we utterly hate. But never in a position of respect or value.

Many liberals wish that straight white men like me didn't even exist. Many of us Conservatives see that it's only white countries where diversity (aka bring in more minorities) is demanded. I never see any demand that Japan or China bring in more non-Asians. I never see any demand that Brazil or Argentina bring in more non-Hispanics. I never see any demand that Morocco, Egypt or Israel bring in more non-Middle Easterners. And I sure as heck never see any demand that an African or Caribbean country (Jamaica, Bahamas, Dominican Republic, Virgin Islands) bring in more non-Blacks. Why is it that white countries are the only ones expected to diversify?

Many of you liberals have asked how Conservatives could support Donald Trump. Simple, for all his flaws, Trump actually fought for us. He actually cared about us. Donald Trump was the one many who I thought could possibly turn it around. But the establishment and Washington elite made sure that didn't happen and it crushed my hopes of things ever truly getting better long term. You all tell me not vote for Trump. So who should I vote for? DeSantis, who is bought and paid for by Bushes and people like Murdock? Controlled opposition, nothing more. Biden, who just said people like me are the greatest threat to national security? Biden would have me eliminated if he could. Newsome, who wants all whites to pay for crimes they didn't commit? Absolutely no way. I will never accept that I should have to pay the price for a crime I never committed. The reality is no one in the Washington elite cares about any of us. Trump actually did care. And that is why the Washington elite will fight so hard to destroy him.

What you all don't understand is that Donal Trump was just the figure. The figure who actually would fight for things like a secured border, capitalistic policies while also protecting the U.S. from predatory companies from China, school choice and a demand that we try our best to live in a post racial society. Where we have equality, not equity.

Many of you on here claim to be against discrimination. I call BS on that. Many on here, whether they know it or not, are completely okay with discrimination. The only thing is they have been able to change who it's okay to discriminate against. And that is whites and to a lesser (but no less significant) extent Asians. I fear where that discrimination will go. Reeducation camps? Restrictions on freedom of movement? Eventual elimination? We've all seen this story before. It's already happening in South Africa with white farmers losing their land and whites being systemically eliminated but yet we do nothing because it's okay. It's okay because it's whites being systemically eliminated and not another race. We see Asians being denied educational opportunities in this economic zone. It's okay because it's Asians. If it was the other way around you all would be losing your minds.

Many of you here say Conservatives are driven by anger and fear. Yes we are driven by anger and fear, but not due to truly hating others but because of what others plan to do to us. As a Conservative yes I do fear being replaced. I fear seeing the culture I grew up being replaced. I worry about silly thing such as:
- Soccer replacing Football
- Machaca's, Taco's and Burrito's replacing Hot Dogs, Mashed Potatoes and Apple Pie.
- Day of the Dead replacing Halloween

But I care about far more consequential things such as:
- Spanish replacing English by the majority of the economic zone to the point where I am a foreigner in my own former country.
- Spanish influences on things like religion and politics.
- Whites become a permanent minority and underclass.

For all the trashing of whites, modern day whites are the only race in human history to put the needs of other races above their own. When whites are no longer the majority Hispanics and Blacks will not do the same. I worry about us being second class citizens. I worry about us being the ones who will be discriminated against. I worry about us being the ones who will be put into camps. I worry about us being the ones who will ultimately be eliminated through genocide and beyond that just been breeded out.

But again, I just don't care anymore. Nothing will ever change and this economic zone will continue to collapse. If anything the collapse will accelerate with time. Someone like Biden hates whites and most liberals hate whites but yet whites are the ones who are expected to join the military and give their lives for an economic zone that hates them. I hope that white males refuse to join the military in droves. Patriotism, it's so dumb now. Patriotism for what?

It's ironic that Conservatives and whites and hated in this economic zone, but are still expected to contribute and go into work every day. Maybe I should beat you liberals at your own game, quit my job and just go on the government dole. Wouldn't that be ironic?

I feel truly stateless and truly unrepresented. I am no longer faithful to the economic zone formerly known as the U.S. Part of me genuinely hopes the whole thing fails and collapses. I have no kids so it wouldn't impact them if the whole thing crumbles. I have no real investment in it anyway.

It would be ironic if all those Hispanics who have moved here turn the U.S. into the same sh*thole country that they were desperately trying to escape. That they turn the U.S. into an economic zone no better than Venezuela, Colombia, Honduras or Nicarauga. That's the route it's going.

Whether you all like it or not, diversity is not a strength once it goes past a certain level. What is one thing that everything in the U.S. shares? One belief? One cultural norm? One unifying trait? The answer is nothing. A white man in the U.S. has more in common with a white man in Australia than a black man in the U.S.. An Asian woman with heritage from Japan has more in common with a Japanese woman than a Hispanic woman in the U.S. A Hispanic man from Venezuela has more in common with a woman from Venezuela than they do a white woman in the U.S. When there is no shared culture, no homogeneity, nothing that binds a country together, it is no longer a country, and failure and collapse are assured.

It all feels very hopeless and that is the life of a lot of Conservatives. The treatment of Trump and his followers shows the path that the treatment of Conservatives and eventually whites will take in this country.

Again Trump was just the figure. When I would go to Trump rallies I would feel at ease, knowing that I had finally found my people. These are the people who I understood and who understood me. Of course it didn't help that I'm 39 (of course at that point back in 2015/2016 I was 32/33) and most of the other supporters were in their 50s at the least. That told me all I needed to know, that God had made a mistake and that I was born in the wrong time. I should've been born in the boomer generation. Sure I would be older now but I would've been in a generation that my mind could understand and comprehend. I don't understand, comprehend or like the world we are in now.

I am in a world that rejects me. But even worse than that, I know I am in a world that no longer needs me or wants me. That is the life of a straight white conservative man in today's U.S. There is no place for me in this world so I just don't care anymore. But I'll make sure to grab some popcorn and enjoy myself when the whole place starts to burn.

In a way it is freeing. This economic zone is on an irreversible path and nothing can be done to save it. Politics, policy, people, community, none of it truly matter anymore. Knowing that it can't be saved, the only joy now is truly to embrace the coming anarchy and chaos and that is what I will do. Farewell for now, Gator Country.
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A real long break is probably a good idea.

Spurffelbow833 · Jun 21, 2023

Sohogator said: ↑

How they heck can you take this nonsense and all his subsequent posts that followed at face value?
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Because he possesses the quality of human decency.

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