The Fall of Minneapolis

Not really. You need someone corrupt and competent to do a job like that. If a person is in prison they are probably corrupt. If they were somehow connected to the FBI, then they might be competent too. Most people in prison are just trying to save their own skin.

There are ways to gain leverage over someone in prison. Blackmailing one’s family is one way to do it. Threatening to bring something else up from the past is another way to do it. Also, hey I have connections and I can expedite your appeal is another negotiation tactic.

It is not that crazy if the FBI connections part is true.

 

Sad if serious. You could do all those things with criminals that weren’t FBI informants. Now you claim he was in the FBI? Do you know Chauvin is an ex cop? I think the real conspiracy is how is it he is just now getting stabbed?

 

Okay, so the argument now is that the FBI decided to blackmail their former informant because they knew how competent he was, despite the fact that he ended up in prison for 30 years due to the fact that he tried to play both sides and failed (and, it should be noted, that Chauvin is currently alive and this guy is looking at more prison)?

How does this theory get dumber every time it is pushed forward?

 

The stabber even claims he’s spending 30 years in jail cuz of the cops setting him up & then he stabs a cop in jail. This is a mystery? Wow

 

I wasn’t aware of that incident. It really begs the question after an incident like that, why was Chauvin still in the PD?

 

I am not claiming that I know this happened. All I have said is it could have happened. More evidence would have to be produced for us to know if that scenario played out or not. The former FBI connection is interesting. I would say it is at the level where an investigator should look further into it, but it is way premature for anyone to claim they know that is what happened.

Do I have faith in the DOJ or the FBI to do that? Nope, I don’t have faith in the FBI and the DOJ. The Steele Dossier destroyed any faith in those institutions. They appear to be political institutions that exist to further political agendas now.

 

It's very, very hard to lose your job at a PD. Partially because of police unions and CBAs. Partially because we, as a society, don't hold police officers accountable.

 

We would all be better off, including these cops, if they were booted off the force at the first sign of extreme behavior. I’d argue that the behavior that you linked was more egregious than the George Floyd incident, it is just that it didn’t result in a death. Had he been booted at the time Floyd would be alive and Chauvin and 2 other cops don’t go to jail.

I wonder if at some point that some of these guys realize the unions aren’t doing them any favors in this respect. But that is one of my beefs with unions in general, which is a whole different can of worms. By protecting fellow employees to a fault, even the worst of them, they end up making things worse for everybody, including eventually fellow employees.

 

Verbs have tenses. Sentences make a lot more sense when you use the correct one. Try "had."

 

It could have been aliens.

 

On what basis would you be able to make this claim?

 

It is known that when people are in distress they call for their mother out of instinct.

 

As usual

 

Unions protect processes. I agree they protect bad employees to the detriment of the body however that is often a byproduct of procedural protections against administration and city officials who are unprofessional and corrupt themselves. It's also a reason I often come to the defense of some of the cops in these high profile cases. The people with the power and position to make changes via protocol, policy, accountability and training are the same people who escape scrutiny from the public and media. Their incompetence and disconnect are often what fuels deficiencies in policing as well as creating the protective policies that keep bad employees employed to begin with.

There are a number of videos on youtube where government officials, judges and administrative brass are flexing and threatening police officers over simple traffic stops. More people need to view them. Just another component to consider when talking about bad police culture.

 

That's very gracious of you to give your approval.

 

It's more than just the unions. The police force, including leadership, protect these guys too. They also give them cover to keep doing what they're doing.

Think about it this way, teachers also have unions. How often do they get caught abusing kids and keep their jobs?

 

I’ve never seen an alien before, but history is full of corrupt governments doing all kinds of corrupt things to maintain power.

 

I can understand the need for public sector unions at one level, as articulated by ANTNY1 above. When you are dealing government officials, administrators and bureaucracies they often have other motivations that well being of employees in mind. The same can be true for private companies but in the private sector there tends to be a self correcting mechanism.

As to police, I tend to think we have fairly high expectations of them for relatively modest pay. To a degree we get what we pay for. A bad day of policing is far more consequential than a bad day for most of us on the job. Medical errors leading to death is supposedly into the 6 figures but people rarely go to jail for that.