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The Fall of Minneapolis

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Gator515151, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. GatorJMDZ

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    Purely projecting...
     
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  5. gator_lawyer

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    Color me unsurprised that OP has taken it upon himself to be the chief Chauvin defender on this board. It is in keeping with his history.
    Chauvin is a monster, and I feel no sympathy towards him. That said, I agree that we should not celebrate prison violence. It is a problem I wish society cared more about solving, rather than something to revel in. Bad guy or not, the punishment our society has deemed appropriate is incarceration, not retributive violence.
     
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  6. GatorJMDZ

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    Stupid Conspiracy Theories R Us.
     
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  8. rivergator

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    Contra, so if the theory is that the FBI wanted Chauvin dead, the obvious question is ... why? Any ideas?
     
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  9. Contra

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    I don’t know. It could be a coincidence. It could be something more than a coincidence.

    If the guy who stabbed him has ties to the FBI that is interesting news.
     
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  10. mdgator05

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    So is the idea being floated here that the FBI put one of its own into jail and sat him there for 22 years. Then, after 22 years sitting in prison, they activated him and had him commit attempted murder and immediately arrested him? This is the theory?
     
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  11. rivergator

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    And a good thing, too. Apparently, Chauvin was just about to blow the lid off the Hunter Biden scandal. Pizzagate, too. And Obama's chef. Maybe even Vince Foster ...
     
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  12. Gator515151

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    I am not trying to float some conspiracy theory here but the scenario did not have to happen exactly the way you put it. He could have been sitting in prison and knowing that at one time years ago he dealt with the FBI they could have contacted him about trying to pull this off.......Like I said I am in no way suggesting this happened just suggesting your imaginary scenario could have played out in several ways, not necessarly the way you stated it.
     
  13. mdgator05

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    Ahh, so the idea of this alternative scenario is that he worked with the FBI at one point, used that relationship to commit a series of crimes, for which he was sentenced to 30 years, leading to him being in prison 22 years later, and the FBI said "we need to get rid of that cop that murdered somebody, so let's reach out to this guy, 22 years into his 30 year sentence. He will surely take a murder charge for us?"
     
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    The more likely scenario rather than planting the guy there the whole time is the FBI blackmailed him.

    If they can frame the POTUS, then they can frame anyone. They could frame you, me, or anyone else in prison that they want to do a dirty job for them.

    Of course this is all speculation, but the FBI connections certainly do raise eyebrows.
     
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    Just sayin you are making up scenarios and claiming this is what people on the right are saying. All I am saying is that there was once an FBI connection....there is a good possibility the people that dealt with him are still FBI. You are making shit up all I am saying is anything is possible when the FBI is involved.
     
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  16. mdgator05

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    Yeah, you don't like it when somebody pays out how this would actually work. You prefer to keep it as vague as possible (hard to get more vague than "anything"). When specifics are the enemy, it shows how laughable all of this is.
     
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    I guess we can also blame the sinister FBI for BLM, Antifa, high rates of crime in black communities, immigration and other issues the right blames Democrats for. Thanks for making that conspiracy theory available for all of us to use.
     
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    I mostly agree with you here. This is the way I think about Chauvin the way I do. Ultimately I don’t know him so I can’t speak to his heart.

    I generally view what Chauvin did as manslaughter. He made a terrible decision and someone died. There should be consequences.

    The difference between what he did and say a drunk driver killing someone is the drunk driver made a decision before hand to engage in a risky activity. A cop is doing his job which is inherently risky and in the moment makes a terrible decision, but as far as I know there was no intent to kill somebody. I really struggle as to how you balance a cop making a catastrophic decision in the execution of his job, especially when the victim’s actions to some degree played a part of the situation. I think there should be consequences but I don’t know what they should be.

    A different way of looking at it is if someone is trying to do something good, in response to inappropriate or illegal activity by the victim but makes a catastrophicly bad decision, resulting in the death of the victim. So you have Chauvin, the other cops there, the instance of the lady cop who shot the guy thinking she tasered, and the New York subway guy. In all those case the accused were trying to do something good in response to illegal and possibly dangerous actions of the victim but they made a terrible mistake in doing so. How does one weigh all those factors?

    Seems to me when you look at them you treat them the same as a criminal with malicious intent. I obviously disagree.

    You and I aren’t going to agree on that and I understand that.
     
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    oh, this is dumb as shit no matter how you slice it. But if the FBI is gonna "blackmail" someone in jail to do "their dirty work", why would they be so dumb as to use a former informant?

    critical thinking. get some.
     
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  20. gator_lawyer

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    Bro, look at Chauvin's history. This wasn't some guy who made one mistake. He had a long history of abusive conduct.
    After Chauvin's conviction for Floyd murder, DOJ weighs charging him for 2017 incident involving Black teen: Source
     
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