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The Fall of Minneapolis

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Gator515151, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. orangeblue_coop

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    Hit Chauvin defenders will holler
     
  2. gatorchamps960608

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    It's always a race to the bottom to find the vilest of heroes for MAGA to idolize.
     
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  3. Sohogator

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    Speaking for myself I’m not celebrating. I’m just not sad. Not even a little bit.
     
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  4. dangolegators

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    Check out the Amazon bio of the goon who directed this:

    His expertise concerns media hoaxes, propaganda, and deceptive media techniques. His research often involves semiotics, (digital) literary/media analysis, and meta-analysis of communication theories and practices. Dr. Chaix holds a Ph.D. in strategic media (with highest distinction) and a master's degree in English with a specialization in 18th- and 19th-century Gothic literature.

    Dr. Chaix is the first person in more than 400 years to evidence how neo-Pythagorean mathematical/textual correlations were used to create intersemiotic complementarity in the composition of The Revelation in The King James Bible (1611), as demonstrated in his 500+ page doctoral dissertation. He is also the first person to discover and document a devilishly similar scheme was used by Scottish author James Hogg in his classic "The Private Memoirs and Confessions of a Justified Sinner" (1824).

    He has often been called a consummate 21st-century “Renaissance man.” He is a former managing editor (for the world's largest IT research/advisory firm), a former police officer, a former firefighter—and an accomplished (jazz) musician, award-winning photographer, and acclaimed media producer. He wrote and directed the documentary film "The Fall of Minneapolis," which Miranda Devine of the NY Post called "brilliant."

    https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B01NAD39B0/about
     
  5. ValdostaGatorFan

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  6. cocodrilo

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    In that picture it sure looks to me like Chauvin's knee is down on the side of Floyd's neck, not "on the back of his neck" as the original poster states. Of course maybe Chauvin's knee would get tired and he would move it around some, which he had plenty of time to do, since Floyd wasn't going anywhere.
     
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  7. rivergator

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    When someone starts a thread about a film he hasn’t seen and can’t comment on, it turns into just another Chauvin thread, no different than the others
     
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  8. wgbgator

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    Imagining wasting your money to crowd fund this fash trash lol
     
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  9. VAg8r1

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    Other than the Amazon bio which I suspect was written by Chaix himself or his publisher I couldn't find anything else about him. Maybe I'm wrong but the guy appears to be a right-wing hack.
     
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  10. 92gator

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    Minneapolis is one of the most liberal places in the nation.

    ...and one of the most racist.

    Ditto Boston.

    Coincidence?

    :cool:
     
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  11. Contra

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    Now this opens the door to conversation on this issue. I saw a photo of Chauvin using the knee to the neck technique on a different person. So, that is something that Chauvin had used in the past, and it did not kill the person the technique was used on every time he used it.

    FWIW, you can’t have your cake and eat it too here. Either Chauvin murdered Floyd in cold blood, or Chauvin used a dangerous restraint technique taught by the MPD that led to Floyd’s death. To argue both is contradictory.
     
  12. wgbgator

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    That's worse for him if he's done it before and it didn't result in a death, you could easily argue intent to kill in Floyd's case since this was a one-off - i.e. if he knew how to use the technique without killing someone, he intentionally did it to kill here. An experience officer who knew what he was doing, didnt fear consequences, etc.
     
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  13. cocodrilo

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    I find it hard to believe that MPD would teach keeping a knee for over nine minutes on the neck of someone already restrained. For what purpose? Of course it's possible that Chauvin was trying to make the Guinness Book of World Records.
     
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    If the technique was taught by MPD and practiced regularly by officers in MPD, then it is not cold blooded murder. Plain and simple. That would be a tragic result of poor policing practice.
     
  15. WESGATORS

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    What leads you to believe that the technique he was using is the same one that he was taught (considering all aspects of applying it that needed to be considered)? By their own rules (when it was allowed), it didn't qualify as permissible.

    Go GATORS!
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  16. wgbgator

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    That is a stupid argument. If you use your training or service weapon to intentionally kill someone that is no threat to you and not a danger to anyone, that is murder. That's why Chauvin is in prison and not getting out.
     
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    You learn to use those weapons to kill. Knee restraint techniques are a form of sub-lethal force meant for restraint not killing. If Chauvin wanted to use his police training to kill Floyd in cold blood, then he could have just pulled out his gun and shot him.
     
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    The article that Valdosta quoted said that there were contributing factors that led to Floyd’s death and there is an entire section on neck restraint techniques. If Chauvin was doing something completely foreign to what he was taught in training, then it is wrong to cite that as contributing factor in George Floyd’s death.
     
  19. wgbgator

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    If I wanted to kill someone because I was a racist cop, I would probably make it look like an accident by misapplying a non-lethal restraint, not blow their brains out in the middle of the street.
     
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  20. WESGATORS

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    Can't they both be true? That he was doing something completely foreign to his training AND that the training itself was insufficient?

    Go GATORS!
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