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The Book of Revelation

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorPrincess8, Jul 28, 2024.

  1. ajoseph

    ajoseph Premium Member

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    I would argue that Trump makes War with everyone who does not bend the knee. Disagree with him? He viciously attacks. He lost an election? He orchestrated the biggest lie on the American public. Charge him for services rendered? He makes you sue him. Loan money to him? He bankrupts the company? Raise miney for charities? He steals from them.

    As as for “defending Christians?” I’d argue that he has mocked Christianity. He has repeatedly marketed himself with Jesus in the background. He has sold bibles to raise money for his campaigns. He invokes the name of Jesus not out of any true belief, but to pander for adulation. He doesn’t defend the religion, he mocks it, and he exploits it.
     
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  2. cocodrilo

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    Most of the latino immigrant children who he turned into orphans would be Catholic like their parents. "Defending Christians," right.
     
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  3. 92gator

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    I opened the thread to solicit scrutiny and feedback. It certainly sounded plausible, and the work sited seemed to back it's claims up ( until it didn't--ie when the map of Atlanta was exposed as Rome or some such and other shortcomings). What you can say I did, was resist and persevered in resisting--the outright dismisseal of the claims, without vetting.
     
  4. duggers_dad

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    Preterist here. The events foretold in Revelation occurred in the First Century.

    Hint: look for the clear time indicators fore and aft.

    Takeaway: Christians are the only people for whom “soon” means 2,000 years and counting.
     
  5. duggers_dad

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    I’m amused by kooky leftist secularist end times beliefs like Nov 5th 2024.
     
  6. okeechobee

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    I noticed in all that you didn’t list an example of actual war. You know, where hundreds of thousands of people die and stuff.
     
  7. duggers_dad

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    Catastrophic and wholly unnecessary wars are tragic, but don’t rise to the level of allegedly fingering a woman thirty years ago.
     
  8. Contra

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    I just find it interesting that out of every ruler on the planet we could single out to make a comparison to the beast we choose this one. Xi Jinping has commanded the 10 commandments be taken down in churches and replaced with portraits of himself and chairman Mao. He has thrown pastors into prisons. Christians have literally died for their faith in the Middle East and Africa, where Muslims are ethnically cleansing the land. People literally worship Kim Jong Un as some kind of deity like figure in North Korea. Christians have been run over by construction equipment in North Korea for their faith. And Trump has tweeted or said something bad about people he doesn't like. I just think the comparison is very American centric with very little global perspective in mind as to the kinds of threats Christians experience globally. In all honesty Christians who are under daily threat of death abroad would laugh at the idea that Trump is either the beast or the anti-Christ, but that is just my opinion on the Trump is the beast argument.
     
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  9. cocodrilo

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    I don't think Trump is the beast of Revelation at all. I think he's just a beast, as in a lower life form. The fact that he's biologically a human doesn't say much for humanity.
     
  10. duggers_dad

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    Psychologically traumatized.
     
  11. cocodrilo

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    Not traumatized, I just know sorry human beings by their actions, not over days or weeks but years. You don't?
     
  12. ajoseph

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    I wouldn’t put Trump as a top 5 leader as “The Beast.” LOL. The argument is IF WE ARE MAKING COMPARISON, I could make an argument for the Beast. I don’t actually believe he is The Beast, to be clear.
     
  13. duggers_dad

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    Some of them finger women in their youth. Others instigate world wars in their old age.
     
  14. duggers_dad

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    *sighs* the beast was a First Century phenomenon.
     
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  16. duggers_dad

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    Trump is the most powerful president in history as regards the power his detractors vest in him, even to imaging him as the Beast of Revelation.

    He holds so much power, over their minds, that they will never stop thinking about him. Just as they accuse him of bringing down America the four years he’s been out of office, they will accuse of destroying America 100 years hence.

    They are enslaved to him.
     
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  17. phatGator

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    There’s another good reason for reading Revelation. It reminds us who wins in the end!
     
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  18. GatorJMDZ

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    REALLY bad direction for you to take this. Better to take them down than to break them, right? Trump has broken 8 of the Ten Commandments. Give him time, he's working on it and doing the best he can.
     
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    Beast, lmfao. Maybe one of the 4 horeman
     
  20. Contra

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    Disagree. I’ve seen you make this point repeatedly. How many of the 10 commandments have you broken?
     
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