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The battle for new college

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by slayerxing, Jan 12, 2023.

  1. tampagtr

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  2. swampbabe

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    Good Lord
     
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  3. G8tas

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    I'm sure all of those books contain pronouns. This list needs to be updated
     
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  4. Norcaligator

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    So no honor.

    No worries, I'll make an honorary $50 donation to Planned Parenthood for you instead. Where should I have the email notification sent?
     
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  5. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Hey bud, you called me out. That’s great. I admitted defeat.
    Also, I am pro choice and hope Florida gets back to 16-24 weeks.
    No need to be an ass.
     
  6. GatorRade

    GatorRade Rad Scientist

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    I wouldn’t be so quick to judge this situation. For one, electives are there only for those that elect them, but more importantly, the class may not be what it seems to you. While you may view drag as a moral wrong, you probably don’t view as terrible the holocaust, slavery, or the civil war. Yet there are probably very few of us that would consider an education complete without learning about those subjects.

    Again, I don’t really know that this is the case, but I do think part of college should be about interacting with ideas outside of one’s bounds of comfort. John Stuart Mill from On Liberty:

    He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them. But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion... Nor is it enough that he should hear the opinions of adversaries from his own teachers, presented as they state them, and accompanied by what they offer as refutations. He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.”
     
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  7. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Read that book too.
    Nice reference Gatorade. I am too lazy to add emojis, but my hope is that some of you guys/ladies will catch some of the humor in my posts.
    I know, I know, truth is often said in jest.
    You probably wouldn’t too surprised to know that I was a fairly liberal dude while in Gainesville.
     
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  8. Orange_and_Bluke

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    But seriously, my children should never waste my money on a drag queen history course.
    Come on man.
     
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  9. GatorRade

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    One minute really changes a man. :D

    I know what you are saying, but what I meant was that the class might be about answering the question, how did drag become largely acceptable in American culture? It seems to me that this would actually be a question you’d appreciate.
     
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  10. Norcaligator

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    My apologies.I’ll still make the donation.
     
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  11. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Love the question over beers. Abhor the thought of wasting a semester elective on it.
     
  12. GatorJMDZ

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    When you get to Planned Parenthood's main donation landing page, you can check a box if your donation is in honor or memory of someone. That opens up places to enter the "Honoree Name" and a physical mailing address if you want that person to be mailed a card. They do not send email notifications or anonymous notifications.
     
  13. gator_lawyer

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    They didn't offer any justifications at the meeting. I wouldn't hold your breath. Bauerlein tried to offer an explanation on Twitter after being called out and only made a fool of himself (because his explanation was contradicted by the New College Handbook).
     
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  14. GatorJMDZ

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    Given DeSantis' dedication to higher education in the state of Florida, look for New College to be converted into condos.....prime waterfront property.

    Edit: How sad a rightie would rate this "optimistic," especially from someone relatively well educated (a DMD, not MD.) Their assault on higher education continues.
     
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  15. Trickster

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    Contrast what elite universities with a commitment to free speech and open academic inquiry are doing with what DeSantis is cramming down the throats of academic institutions in Florida.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/04/29/university-campus-free-speech-censorship-fight/
    "In March, a Cornell University sophomore and member of the undergraduate student assembly saw a friend become visibly disturbed while reading “The Surrendered,” a Chang-rae Lee novel with a graphic rape scene. So she spearheaded a resolution that “implores all instructors to provide content warnings on the syllabus for any traumatic content that may be discussed.

    "On the surface, this story has all the trappings of a wider phenomenon increasingly prevalent on American university campuses: the curtailing of academic inquiry, and sometimes even free speech, for the protection of perceived student “sensitivities” — invisible boundaries whose contours are never quite clear but almost always couched as barriers against “harm.” What happened next is cause for celebration: The Cornell administration immediately struck down this resolution, a welcome reminder that academic institutions have the power to defend their fundamental values — and are willing to use it.

    "A turning point of sorts seems to have come in March, when Jenny Martinez, the dean of Stanford Law School, courageously doubled down on defending her decision to apologize to Judge Stuart Kyle Duncan, a Trump appointee with an admittedly abysmal record who had come to Palo Alto only to be heckled nonstop by law students.

    “Some students might feel that some points should not be up for argument and therefore that they should not bear the responsibility of arguing them,” she wrote in a 10-page letter. But saying that certain points are somehow beyond the pale of acceptable argumentation “is incompatible with the training that must be delivered in a law school."
     
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  16. GatorRade

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    Maybe it isn’t worth much, but it might be tackling more than it seems. I teach a course in the biology of science fiction film (really!), which might seem like a similar boondoggle to those on the outside. However, when we evaluate the plausibility of the size of King Kong, we legitimately explore foundational equations from structural physics.

    As is always the case, the question of who decides is a tough one, but if someone from outside criticized my course, I think they would be doing so wrongly.
     
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  17. GatorJMDZ

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    Be sure not to dress Kong up in women's clothing.
     
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  18. GatorRade

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    Good point. Biology maybe has a troubled past on this front. This is Charles Darwin …and his son!

    [​IMG]
     
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  19. slayerxing

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    Ny times had a good opinion piece on this. Faculty representatives, a computer science guy trying to work with the new board, simply quit on the spot when the board refused to consider good tenure packets.

    what’s sad is these horrible people won’t succeed in building anything new or better at new college. But they will succeed in destroying the school. Really sad stuff.
     
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