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The battle for new college

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by slayerxing, Jan 12, 2023.

  1. G8R92

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    How about instead of getting a salary, he receives an essay telling him what he did well on and what he needs to improve on.
     
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  2. ursidman

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    Look out UCF. You might be next.

     
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  3. saywhatgator

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    The media is going to turn Desantis and his culture into a tyrant if he runs for president. Independents favor the LGTBQ community and POC. Most people do not want a full American version of these culture wars. Desantis has no personality. He just carves meat for his base. His act will not play well outside of his bubble.
     
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  4. staticgator

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    First they came for New College and I did not speak out.
     
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  5. GratefulGator

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    DeSantis and cronies want to change the name of New College to Ye Olde College.
    Women are not allowed to attend Ye Olde College and must remain in the house to care for the children, cook and clean. (The 3 C's)
     
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  6. jjgator55

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    And along comes white supremacist Rufo to prove UCF is correct that America has a "white- supremacist culture," with a "male, white, heterosexual, able-bodied, and Christian" oppressor class.
     
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  8. slayerxing

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  9. gator_lawyer

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    I quite enjoyed this editorial calling out Richard Corcoran for being a massive hypocrite:
    https://www.jacksonville.com/story/...with-top-college-job-nate-monroe/69903072007/
    As presidential vacancies opened in recent years at Florida universities large and small, the frenzied efforts to fill them came to resemble a higher-ed version of Russian roulette: Which sucker school would get stuck with Richard Corcoran?

    Once a churlish budget hawk in the Florida Legislature — whose favorite targets included the state's higher-education institutions for their alleged "lavish" salaries — Corcoran has spent his years since brazenly trawling for a job leading a Florida university, a role he has never previously held. In fact, Corcoran, a charter school evangelist, has no education background whatsoever, save for his appointment as Gov. Ron DeSantis' education commissioner — a few sorry years during which he courted ideological zealots, got ensnared in a bid-rigging scandal, and threatened local public school officials across the state. But one go at the public trough wasn't enough. In his post-legislative career, Corcoran morphed into a familiar Florida character: an avowed small-government conservative turned big-government bureaucrat with an unslakable desire to cash taxpayer paychecks.

    His was the name that serially surfaced when presidential search committees, run by increasingly politicized college boards, got to work, and it was the name that caused much puckering of nether regions and knotting of stomachs in Florida's higher-education ranks. Who would be left with Richard Corcoran when the music stopped?
     
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  10. 108

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    Read about 10 pages of this thread, and it’s clear that conservatives truly believe that their ideology is losing favor because of “indoctrination”, not on its merits.

    They have moved past the point of trying to win the war of ideas, and attempting now to dictate from the top down.

    This will end similar to their voter suppression tactics, with the outcome being the opposite of their intention. Young people will just resist, and become even more outspoken and hold more tightly to their views.

    I don’t remember one iota of politics at my time at UF, and I voted for George Bush in 2004 while there.

    What’s not so interesting is that Conservatives aren’t at all aware of their hyper fixation on indoctrination as a projection of their own. No one is more indoctrinated in this country than the kid who grows up in a social conservative household, and higher-Ed is a threat to that because it naturally opens one up to new ideas, experiences, and connections.

    Their goal isn’t to make higher-Ed better, it is to try to reverse engineer from the top down what has organically happened over decades from the bottom up.
     
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  11. slayerxing

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    https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2023/999/BillText/Filed/PDF

    Posting this here also because it is very relevant for a place like new college.

    Some highlights:

    The board shall periodically review the mission of each constituent university and provide updates or revisions to such mission as needed; examine existing academic programs at each constituent university for alignment with the university's mission; and provide direction to each constituent university on removing from its programs any major or minor in Critical Race Theory, Gender Studies, or Intersectionality, or any derivative major or minor of these belief systems, which is any major or minor that engenders beliefs in the concepts defined in s. 1000.05(4)(a).

    (c) General education core courses may not suppress or distort significant historical events or include a curriculum that teaches identity politics, such as Critical Race Theory, or defines American history as contrary to the creation of a new nation based on universal principles stated in the Declaration of Independence.

    (1) The Legislature finds it necessary that every undergraduate student of a public postsecondary educational institution in the state graduates as an informed citizen through participation in rigorous general education courses that promote the values necessary to preserve the constitutional republic through traditional, historically accurate, and high quality coursework. Courses with a curriculum based on unproven, theoretical, or exploratory content are best suited to fulfill elective or specific program prerequisite credit requirements, rather than general education credit requirements.

    (3) General education courses must: (d) Whenever applicable, promote the philosophical underpinnings of Western civilization and include studies of this nation's historical documents, including the United States Constitution, the Bill of Rights and subsequent amendments thereto, and the Federalist Papers.
     
  12. gator_lawyer

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    More viewpoint discrimination. Fabulous.
     
  13. ursidman

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    This is not good. This is not good at all.
    Please submit any thoughts you have that may stray from these guidelines to The Board of Free Florida prior to utterance.
     
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  14. Gator40

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    This is perfect. And looking at the one person who disagreed says all about how dead right you are. Bravo.
     
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  15. gator_lawyer

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    And @slayerxing's post didn't include many other terrible provisions, including the provision handing the power to the politically appointed boards of trustees to conduct hiring (and tenure review, IIRC).
     
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  16. slayerxing

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    yeah that part and the part about boards ignoring faculty committees in the hiring process are really bad.
     
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  17. gator_lawyer

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    Why would you take the opinions of faculty into account when it comes to hiring their colleagues? Isn't it more important that political appointees control the process? Isn't that how businesses hire?

    When Google is looking for a new engineer, they don't ask their engineers and the supervisors in that division to conduct the interviews; they have the board of directors do it, right? ;)
     
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  18. slayerxing

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    honestly straight out of an authoritarian playbook.
     
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  19. gator_lawyer

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    Everything they're doing is about stripping away academic freedom.
     
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  20. gator_lawyer

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    And still to come is DeSantis's union-busting bill. Good bet it's both awful and unconstitutional.
     
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