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The art of the deal

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by l_boy, Jul 11, 2023.

  1. Jul 11, 2023 #1
    l_boy

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/07/10/turkey-nato-summit-eu-sweden/

    So Biden helps get Turkey approval for Sweden coming into NATO.

    For all of Trump’s supposed deal making abilities, Biden quietly and in a workman like way actually gets things done

    - Sweden NATO deal
    - Leading coalition supporting Ukraine against Russia
    - Debt ceiling deal
    - IRA
    - infrastructure
    - chips act

    This is what competent governance looks like.
     
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  2. Jul 11, 2023 #2
    Emmitto

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    TBF, one of T’s directives from Putin was to destroy NATO, so while not as effective as Biden, he was also making real progress in his own lane.
     
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  3. Jul 11, 2023 #3
    citygator

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    I approve of this message.
     
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  4. Jul 11, 2023 #4
    G8tas

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    How does Biden make it look so easy?
     
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  6. Jul 11, 2023 #6
    l_boy

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    It just shows these days that all of the political theater really has nothing to do with what actually happens.
     
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  7. Jul 11, 2023 #7
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    Oh yeah Biden and :
    Inflation
    Border
    Energy dependence
    Trillions of debt
    You can’t sell that !
     
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  8. Jul 11, 2023 #8
    Trickster

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    Thank you, thank you. But, hey, let's focus on his gaffs. The contrast between him and his predecessor couldn't be more stark. The only things he hasn't done - damn him' - is pass a two trillion dollar tax bill benefiting the middle and lower classes.
     
  9. Jul 11, 2023 #9
    ThePlayer

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    Don't give sleepy Joe any credit for saving the world.
    He does his best work beating up his staff and ignoring his 7th grandchild.

    A HISTORIC DAY: In recent weeks, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg has demonstrated why member nations were so anxious to keep him around for another year.
    The former prime minister of Norway managed to broker a deal that clears the way for Sweden to join Finland as the newest member of the trans-Atlantic alliance.

    Stoltenberg’s personal intervention, culminating in yesterday’s meeting with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson, broke the
    deadlock that threatened to block Sweden’s accession to NATO indefinitely.
     
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  10. Jul 11, 2023 #10
    l_boy

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    Inflation - I’ll agree to a degree, the fiscal stimulus was probably excessive. But much of the inflation was supply based, as evidenced by higher inflation worldwide, and I think the fact that we came out of pandemic so well economically was partly due to the fiscal stimulus.

    Border - again, I’ll agree to a degree, but this situation existed prior to Biden

    Energy dependence - no idea what you are talking about here. Green initiatives are rapidly adding capacity, and at the same time we are pumping out record domestic oil production. You are dead wrong here.

    Trillions of debt - again agree to a degree. The stimulus was excessive but most of it was due to pandemic and would have been high regardless.
     
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  11. Jul 11, 2023 #11
    ThePlayer

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    'Dealmaker' Biden just skipped the NATO leader dinner citing his workload...days after he lounged on the beach.
    Where's Waldo is a better description of granpa.

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  12. Jul 11, 2023 #12
    l_boy

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    This changes everything.
     
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    G8tas

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    And still was able to broker a deal to add Sweden to NATO. What do you think makes him so effective?
     
  14. Jul 12, 2023 #14
    ThePlayer

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    Biden didn't broker a damn thing, Jens Stoltenberg did.
    Joe Biden can't 'broker' the shoes and socks he wears everyday.
    The only thing keeping Joe upright is his handlers clearing the way beforehand.
     
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