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The 2024 GOP front runner wants to terminate The Constitution…

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Dec 3, 2022.

  1. gatorchamps960608

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    An example of an attack on democracy would be 1/6 or state authorities refusing to certify elections they don't like.

    Eliminating the EC isn't an attack on democracy; It's an expansion of it. The rest of your list is just about setting the constraints of society to what you wish vs. what someone else wishes.
     
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  2. rtgator

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    Mostly the part where religious freedom can be used to limit LGBT rights. Supreme court is looking at a case like that now. The comment was kind of TIC but I'm sure republicans and democrats both have parts of the constitution they would like to scrap.
     
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  4. Trickster

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    I hear that a lot, but have never heard anyone give an intelligent reason how democrats, whose philosophy has been with us since the beginning, suddenly pose a “threat to democracy”. It seems to me to be some have needed an excuse to oppose democrats, and that the excuse is really a way to justify supporting a man they know in their hearts is a thoroughly debased human being bound for Hell.

    By the way, I applaud your position with respect to Trump. It confirms my conclusion that you’re a true practicing Christian, rather than a CINO.
     
  5. Trickster

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    And probably won’t like him when they get to know him. Most who have don’t. There are many Republican candidates who would make better presidents AND be less divisive.
     
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  6. Sohogator

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    Agreed on DeSantis. While I don’t like his positions Kemp for instance seems a far more effective candidate maybe even that Chinese guy Young Kim

    The problem is that the GOP has is that 75% of its core supporters are flat out nuts
     
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  7. sierragator

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    That "democrats are a threat to democracy" is an offshoot of that false dichotomy maga world likes to throw around: You are either a loyal supporter of the orange god, no matter what, or you hate America and want to destroy it. Talk about a line of bullshit.
     
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  8. Trickster

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    Tilly, anyone who votes for Trump cannot excuse themselves with the absurd rationalization he’s better than any democrat. That’s the equivalent of someone on the left saying no Republican, no matter how faithfully he or she adheres to the Constitution , is worth voting for. I think that’s what you’re missing here: it’s one thing to oppose democratic policies, but quite another to support a clearly mentally unstable man who is doing his best to destroy democracy itself.
     
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  9. Trickster

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    Congratulations! Stupidest post in this Thread.
     
  10. Trickster

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    How weird! Debating a policy is a far, far cry from changing a form of governance.
     
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  11. duggers_dad

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    Addled Democrats wrapping themselves in the Constitution.
     
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  13. tilly

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    I literally started a huge thread in 2020 announcing why I wouldn't support him in his reelection bid. That thread sat on the front page for weeks and weeks. All of your left leaning friends loved 8t, while I took arrows mostly from those on the right. That thread tore him to shreds, point by point, as a person and a politician. I called on others to do the same. I've taken shots at him multiple times just today on this board.

    At least attempt to be honest.
     
  14. GrandPrixGator

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    Can these threads have some sort of Trump designation? Maybe like BTT? Beware-Trump Thread? Sort of like NSFW? One of the biggest benefits from him not being elected was not to hear his buffoonery on a daily basis. I can avoid new articles as they usually reference him in the headline. I'm sort of serious, sort of kidding...
     
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  15. sierragator

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    Yet he keeps saying and doing things that get him in the news, and so it gets posted about. Really looking forward to him being out of the picture and truly irrelevant. As of now he still holds sway for a huge chunk of the gop.
     
  16. tilly

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    Kind words appreciated my friend and please see my posts in this thread. I know we will disagree, but they are the areas of concern for the right
     
  17. Trickster

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    I was going to say the same thing. Like so many, Tilly just can’t grasp the enormity of what Trump did on 1/6 (and said leading up to the election) and what he’s been saying since. To talk about, say, abortion in that context is head-slapping incomprehensible to me. (With respect to abortion, it, like many other contentious issues, has been subjected to and settled by the democratic process. Trump and his supporters want to bypass that process and impose their beliefs. Democrats don’t.)
     
  18. tilly

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    Lets be honest. Every post digresses to Trump.

    Righties will start a thread about Biden and within 5 minutes the "but Trump" stuff starts.

    Lefties will start daily Trump threads that some righties will say "but HunterHillarySleepyJoe" but still at the core the thread is about Trump.

    Billy Napier will recruit a QB and people will ask his NIL deal was funded by a MAGA doner etc etc ;)
     
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    It seems like you have a bigger fear of losing your religious rights to discrimate and have others subsidize your church than Democracy. No one ever forced anybody to have health care. There was a tax for not having health care, just like you pay more tax if you don’t have a mortgage, if you don’t put solar panels on your house, don’t have a kid, liquidate an IRA early etc etc. The Internal Revenue Code is littered with tax incentives and penalties for commercial and other behavior. But somehow a tax penalty on health care is a threat to Democracy?

    How is an “attack” on the electoral college an attack on Democracy? If anything the electoral college is undemocratic.

    How is allowing reproductive rights, which a majority of people support, an attack on democracy?

    elswhwre you mention free speech. I don’t think Democrats are proposing any curtailment of protected free speech. Getting cancelled on Twitter is not a violation of constitutional free speech.

    That’s fine to say the D party doesn’t align with your views but these things are in no way an attack on Democracy. They are an attack on your mostly minority political positions.
     
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  20. Trickster

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    Hmmm. The right to privacy was the essential holing in Roe v. Wade and which has outraged republicans for decades. It is NOT in the constitution. See whose ox is being gored?
     
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