Texas: Where healthcare just means more (if you’re a man)

99% of abortions are for convenience. There are no laws preventing women whose life is in jeopardy from having an abortion.

And it is my opinion that killing a child because they may not survive or have abnormalities is wrong. We don’t kill people based on where they are in their development at any point after birth. Why should we before?

 

I guess it's easier to pretend these stories are all made up by the evil media than face reality.

 

The media (in general) is evil. You got that much right.

 

The difference between a person with a fatal cancer diagnosis and a fetus with Trisomy 18 is the cancer patient won't cause anyone any physical harm if allowed to live. The fetus? A good chance that along the way, if carrying too term, the woman runs the risk of going into sepsis or other, major, life threatening complications.

Speaking of complications, they are more common then people want to believe. About 8%, or around 1 in 12 pregnancies have complications that threaten the life of the fetus, mother, or both. Not all end up where nothing can be done to save both fetus and mother. But many end up in a situation like Cox.

And in situations like this, imagine the things Cox has to weigh to come to a decision. Some women may be able to carry to term with a Trisomy 18 fetus. Others may not, especially when weighing the risk to herself. In Cox's case, she already had two kids she needs to take care of. If forced to carry to term, she runs the risk of dying and leaving her kids without a mother.

Though the threat to Cox's life wasn't imminent, the potential threat was enough that her doctor wanted to act. The courts said no. Meaning, according to the law in Texas, until a woman is in sepsis, there's nothing she can do to avoid it except pray it never happens.

It also means more women will die in Texas. And more will suffer other complications like infertility that could easily be avoided with preventative care. Care, again, not allowed by law in Texas.

If you are OK with this, @QGator2414, sacrificing a few women to keep the law, at least admit it.

 

I literally started a thread 2 days ago about a woman in Ohio who had been bleeding for 4 days, was told her fetus was non-viable, but couldn't get an abortion or "induced pre term delivery", as the article called it ... then got arrested when her fetus died in the womb, and she had a miscarriage at home ... @QGator2414 is willfully uninformed, as usually.

 

Who is pretending. They are very rare. Thankfully.

Sadly they are being used to make it easier to kill for convenience.

 

More BS hyperbole. No one here thinks any mother should be sacrificed. Stop making crap up.

 

Completely off topic here. I have no idea what you are talking about and if it is true the story as you present it…I would likely be on your side.

It is amazing what some of you will say to try and make abortion for convenience legal. As that is the crux of it for some of you. Sadly.

 

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This link contains interviews with 15 women not named Kate Cox who either survived, but with serious complications. Or fled to another state where abortion laws aren't so strict so they could get an abortion before there were life threatening complications. How many more are there out there not willing to tell their stories? Or can't, because they died, like Yeni Glick?

 

99% of abortions are for convenience. There is not one single law that you can point to that prohibits an abortion of the mothers life was in jeopardy. Not One!

 

So you know better than the women who experienced it? Bullshit. And 2% of abortions are for health reasons. 3% for rape or incest. I've shown you the numbers. You just refuse to believe the truth. Keep your head in the sand and keep thinking you're not hurting, or killing actual women. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

 

And why don't you, @QGator2414, tell the family of Yeni Glick that no law prevents a woman from dying. Glick was on a similar medical path as Cox. The difference, Cox went out of state for treatment. Glick did not. And by the time Glick qualified to get an abortion, it was too late, and she died. What prevented Cox from potentially the v same fate? Not the law. But her decision to get treatment out of state.

 

Not true, the number is 12% for medical reasons, but regardless.. So? No one needs your permission to avoid being a breeding machine.

Understanding why women seek abortions in the US | BMC Women's Health | Full Text

 

Yeah ... everything on that list of reasons women gives seems like perfectly valid reasons to me, and 98% of are something other than "for convenience".

 

Show me a “Law” that denies women the ability to get an abortion if their life is in jeopardy.

Stop hiding behind outlier cases. Some of which are likely circumstances where they mother was let down. Show me the “Law”!

 

Presuming this perfectly accurate. Concern for own health is 6% and that is not the same thing as the mothers life being in jeopardy. That is a feeling.

Here is one showing that for a mother whose life is truly in jeopardy or risk to major bodily function is 0.2%. 2.5% the mother is concerned like the 6% you cited. Your 12% includes things like concern for the child and the mother using alcohol and drugs.

Fact Sheet: Reasons for Abortion - Lozier Institute

 

I already linked the Texas Supreme Court decision. What more do you need? So with the excuses. And tell me why Cox, Glick, and the 13 women from the prior link all felt they needed to leave the state for care. Or didn't, and ended up either with serious complications, or worse, dead. Going b to tell them and their families about the law too?