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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ETGator1, Jul 29, 2022.

  1. mdgator05

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    Actually, that is what ET is proposing. I am advocating the current law, where a business can choose any reason that it wants to serve or not serve customers outside of protected classes. You know, freedom.

    No, it is entirely fair and equal. A bank could choose not to do business with anybody it chooses not to do business with and the recourse for those people is that they can find another bank or try to change the bank's policies through speech. Again, that's called freedom. You are advocating big gogerent step in instead.
     
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  2. mdgator05

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    Race is a protected class. And you all supported a business deciding not to serve gay people as it sued for the right to do exactly that. So your reply is BS.
     
  3. ETGator1

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    Texas started with this in a fight over Big Oil with the Biden Administration. Gun rights are secondary yet critical too.

    Lost revenue in Texas is an acceptable loss in the war with globalist woke and ESG values being forced on the US and the world. I applaud Texas for doing the right thing regardless of the cost.

    It has been reported that 24 states passed laws or were proposing laws to restrict ESG. My apologizes to Texas as they are the state who took the lead on this, not Florida which is a little late coming in to restrict ESG.

    During the Trump Administration, rules were promulgated to stop ESG. When Ole Joe got into the White House, he set forth to end the Trump Administration rules and to establish Biden Administration rules. This is what set off Texas, not guns. Ole Joe is directing through his federal department regulations that banks will have lower ESG scores if the loan to the fossil fuel industries. It is the basis of his war on fossil fuel industries.

    Why is Ole Joe doing this? He's a globalist who puts those on the World Economic Forum over the American people who know he is not representing them and has developed voters' remorse in less than 18 months due to these failed globalist policies. This will start to play out in the midterms and again in the 24 national elections resulting in America First republican control of the White House and congress.

    There are going to be causalities and monetary losses on both sides until we successfully remove the US from the global governing Great Reset. The American people are going to vote for the America First Reset.

    This is actually a good thing as it will send Trump or Trump Lite to the White House in 25 to return America to greatness. MAGA: Make America Great Again.

    Links for your reading, not that you will. You'll be like Dan, "I'm not going to waste my time reading all of that." It's your choice to continue to support evil and tyranny:

    The End of the Trump-Era ESG Rule - 401(k) Specialist (401kspecialistmag.com)

    Biden's DOL Scraps Trump Era ESG Rule - 401(k) Specialist (401kspecialistmag.com)

    Department Of Labor Changes Course on Trump ESG Investment Rule (natlawreview.com)

    Biden Executive Order Can Help U.S. End Fossil Fuel Finance | NRDC

    Biden orders U.S. to stop financing new carbon-intense projects abroad | Reuters

    Letter-to-President-Biden-on-10-in-2022-Plan (api.org) - See #5 on list.

    Publications - Understanding Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) Scores, and Why Lawmakers Should Oppose Them | Heartland Institute

    Letter from US: ESG faces backlash in some US states over fossil fuels | Features | IPE

    Why Tesla was kicked out of the S&P 500's ESG index (cnbc.com)

    Great Reset: WEF Pushes Central Bank Controlled Cashless Society (breitbart.com)

    Last but not least, meet the unelected would-be rulers of the Great Reset globalist world:

    Partners
     
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  4. mdgator05

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    Again, you are asking the government to tell investors that they can't invest however they feel like investing. The government doesn't come up with ESG scores, you just want the government to tell private businesses what they can do. And you probably still self-identity as loving freedom and capitalism. But you don't because freedom means that sometimes people don't do whatever you want. And you can't handle that. So you ask the government to come in and save you from all that freedom that other people have.
     
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  5. ETGator1

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    Read more and post in response. The links tell the story better than anyone here can. It's your choice if you choose to live in ignorant bliss never understanding the totality of what America is being confronted with due to the massive failures of the Biden Administration.
     
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  6. danmanne65

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    What does “woke” mean to you? I think the great divide over “wokeism” comes down to definition. I think it means cops killing fewer people. Giving everyone an equivalent shot and things like that. Some of the maga group think it’s an evil thing but what they think is evil isn’t in my definition.
     
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  7. mdgator05

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    And here you are trying to claim that the Biden administration has failed by letting other people have freedom. Your greatest fear: people you don't like having freedom.
     
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  8. danmanne65

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    And Gillum may have been the worst candidate in history.
     
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  9. G8trGr8t

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    all those links come down to this simple fact wrt what Biden did. The US gubmnt agencis are not to support coal fired plants that do not do carbon capture. wth does that have to do with private banks being forced to lend to gun manufacturers. fyi, China has also stopped financing foreign coal plants because even they recognize that what we are doing to the planet will have major consequences.

    The policy bans any U.S. government financing of overseas coal projects that do not capture or only partially capture carbon emissions, allowing federal agencies to engage on coal generation only if the project demonstrates full emissions capture or is part of an accelerated phaseout.

    So you think that the $500M that could be spent building schools, roads, etc is better spent fighting a culture war trying to force banks to lend to industries that they do not want to support. got it, more big gubmnt rules forcing companies to do what the extremists want.. you represent the extreme, no compromise positions that have the potential to bring down the country and all that is important to you is that your side win, regardless of the damage to the country. We have met the enemy of our solidarity and it is ET. Is compromise a dirty word in your world?
     
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  10. danmanne65

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    I asked before, I will ask again. What is the definition of woke? I think if we can define the term, we can have an honest debate on the merits and some of the overreach.
     
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  11. ETGator1

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    More sources say you information is BS:

    Exclusive — FL Education Commissioner: USDA Trying to Hold Poor Kids 'Hostage' with Food Program to Impose 'Transgender' Policies (breitbart.com)
     
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  12. gator_lawyer

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    Your source is a DeSantis crony's quote from Breitbart. My source is the rule.
    Application of Bostock v. Clayton County to Program Discrimination Complaint Processing – Policy Update | Food and Nutrition Service
    Thus, FNS concludes the focus on individual households and the prohibition of discrimination “by reason of” sex under the Food and Nutrition Act is sufficiently similar to Title VII such that the Bostock analysis applies to the Food and Nutrition Act. This means that the certification of applicant households for SNAP shall be conducted without discrimination on the basis of gender identity and sexual orientation.
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    I'm sorry that Republicans are shitty people and guilty of exactly what I'm accusing them of.
     
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  14. ETGator1

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    Multiple states are saying the rule be damned and what you are saying is FOS.
     
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    This has to be one of the craziest threads ever and that's really saying something.
     
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    I'd like to see Ron propose a bill that would require Chick-fil-A to be open on Sundays. Because they are discriminating against people such as myself who want chicken sandwiches on Sunday. And it would be totally consistent with Ron's governing philosophy.
     
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    Sorry Florida, but you don't lead Texas in y'alls BIG GOV, freedom hatin' war on a weed. My Tx buddy just left this morning...left me his last gummies cuz - get this - they are a FELONY in Tx. A felony! Get on it Chy-na Ron!

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  18. gator_lawyer

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    I just quoted the rule for you and linked it. Yet again, rather than admit you're wrong, you double down when somebody exposes your lack of knowledge on a topic.

    And yes, multiple Republican states are trying to block this rule. Why? I can only guess they want to discriminate against LGBTQ people in their SNAP programs without taking the risk of losing federal funds.
     
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    Seconded, all in favor say aye. And I'm willing to go to bat to make chicken sandwich eaters a protected class.
     
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  20. ETGator1

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    Wrong is you thinking the Biden Administration isn't attacking the children that need the help the most just to try to force states to go along with CRT and sex/gender teachings.

    I'd just as soon see the Education Department disbanded and the people doing this fired or impeached.
     
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