Texas abortion ban linked to increase in infant deaths, new study finds

I assume this is babies with severe and fatal defects that TX law forced to carry to term? When they are born and immediately die, that inevitably impacts the mortality statistics (although some aspect of the increase could also be reduced quality of care).

I assume the nutbar take is “well they would have died anyway, at least they had a chance of Godly miracles this way”.

Technically it’s true the babies would have probably died either way, the issue is the torture (emotional and physical) they put the mothers through, and it wouldn’t be surprising to see a similar statistical increase in negative health outcomes for the pregnant women.

 

They’re just women, so….

Edit to add: number of “rape” babies in Texas after abortion ban

Texas had over 26K rape-related pregnancies in 16 months after abortion ban, study shows

Anyone that thinks this is good policy is sick.

 

Abortion is death.

So, mourning the loss of the ability to inflict death upon others because a proportion of those who were spared from death died is quite ironic isn't it?

 

The rate of death increased.

 

Did the study count those who were aborted in the death toll numbers when computing the rate of death?

 

Walk in another person’s shoes…. I just hope, if you have a wife and she gets pregnant, that you don’t have to choose between an abortion and your wife’s death. Until then, with no skin in the game, it’s easy to sit on your throne and pontificate.

 

Pretty sure that sex/reproduction is not in his wheelhouse.

 

It's what the gop wants

 

There is not one single law on the books or being pushed that does not allow for an abortion in the very rare and terrible situation where the mothers life is in jeopardy. Stop spewing lies!

 

It happens. My views on abortion were much more in line with Contra's. Until my wife was having a miscarriage and the doctor on call at 2am refused to provide a dilatation and curettage, and we spent the next few days in misery and fear. Women should be able to get the medical care they need. Even it is abortion adjacent. If I need to allow another woman to have an abortion so that my wife can have a dilation and curettage when she needs it, so be it. I still believe that elective abortion is a terrible sin. But I no longer want to use the government to force others to live by my beliefs.

 

Then why did the Texas AG threaten to charge a doctor in Texas for saying her patient's life was in jeopardy and she needed an abortion? Why did the lawyers for the state of Idaho, when arguing in front of the Supreme Court of the United States of America, admit that this wasn't true about the laws in their state?

It sounds nice to say that the laws don't read this way, but in the real world, the people charged with interpreting the laws disagree with you.

 

This is a horrific stat. Every Democratic politician should recite this stat every time they get the opportunity.

 

I am really sorry you had to go through that, it is inexcusable. I am glad you came around, but it is frustrating that people such as yourself have to experience something like this to change your mind. We can talk about and warn people all day long, but for many people until it happens to them they don’t seem to think it is real.

How do we through to others before it happens to them?

 

The Texas SC said it was not the courts job to make that determination. Read the law. Read the decision.

 

Meanwhile, in reality:

https://www.reuters.com/legal/texas...rgency-abortion-despite-state-ban-2023-12-07/

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton on Thursday threatened to prosecute any doctors involved in providing an emergency abortion to a woman, hours after she won a court order allowing her to obtain one for medical necessity.

Paxton said in a letter that the order by District Court Judge Maya Guerra Gamble in Austin did not shield doctors from prosecution under all of Texas's abortion laws, and that the woman, Kate Cox, had not shown she qualified for the medical exception to the state's abortion ban.

Paxton said in a statement accompanying the letter that Guerra Gamble's order "will not insulate hospitals, doctors, or anyone else, from civil and criminal liability for violating Texas' abortion laws."

The letter was sent to three hospitals where Damla Karsan, the doctor who said she would provide the abortion to Cox, has admitting privileges.

 

Surprise, you're not well informed. But while we're at it, (A) do you think an abortion would be okay if the mother's life were in danger? (B) What if the fetus were viable? If you say yes, then you're not against abortion. Rather, you just want to dictate to everyone else when they are allowed to have one. I call that hypocrisy.

 

That, my brother, is the point.....one the self-righteous can't comprehend.

BTW, my wife and I were in a similar situation 37 years ago. Our doctor called us in to tell us my wife's life would be in danger if she went through with the pregnancy (she was 42). We had a choice to make, something the self-righteous anti-abortion Nazis with their pipeline to the almighty would have deprived us of.

I won't reveal the outcome because it's irrelevant to my point: IT WAS OUR CHOICE!

 

There are some estimates that the number nationwide is close to 64K