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Tennessee Republicans Seek to Ban Physics

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ncargat1, Mar 22, 2024.

  1. phatGator

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    Don’t know for certain, but my sense from the article is they have been conducting lab work and simulations. “The so-called stratospheric controlled perturbation experiment (SCoPEx) was expected to be the first such scientific effort conducted in the stratosphere. But it proved controversial from the start and, in the end, others may have beaten them across the line of deliberately releasing reflective materials into that layer of the atmosphere.”
     
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  2. rivergator

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    so there's zero indication that the federal government has released chemicals like this. And the bill is just to make sure they don't ever do it ... at least over Tennessee.
     
  3. phatGator

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    Agreed. The language of the bill even said the government may release, not that the government had released. The article referenced in the OP confused this issue with chemtrail conspiracy theories. They are two different subjects.

    By the way, I’ve always chuckled at the chemtrail theories because even if some chemical was released at 30,000 feet, by the time it hit the ground the concentration would be so low from dispersion that it couldn’t do any effect.
     
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  4. rivergator

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    it looks like pretty much everyone covered that as a bill to prevent chemtrails. Including the Nashville paper

    Tennessee Senate passes bill banning 'chemtrails': What to know
     
  5. phatGator

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    You’re correct. Your article is the same one from the OP, but I’ve seen others doing the same thing. There is a lot of lazy journalism out there, if you can call it journalism. Somebody publishes an article, even a bad one, and other sources merely copy that article and reprint it. Here’s a hilarious one. This guy’s expertise is in frequent flyer miles, and yet he publishes the following:

    “legislators in Tennessee are convinced that [contrails are] really government weather control experiments, or targeting of civilians with poison – and the state’s senate has passed legislation to ban “chemtrails” within the state’s borders.”

    Conspiracy In Tennessee: State Senate Votes To Ban Weather Controlling Chemtrails From Planes - View from the Wing
     
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  6. ncargat1

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    BS. They tried to pretend that their insanity was in defense of Tennessee. The language that you point out, specifically, the added phrase about "modifying the climate" was amended onto the bill only after the senate passed the original insane text. Someone in the House apparently had the sense to add language to make this sound a little less obviously insane, even after the authors alleged that the bill was based on a mountain of non-existing conspiracy data. People can try and spin this after the fact, but this whole thing was meant to feed the Maga-morons zeal for all things ignorant and conspiratorial. A conspiracy of the ignorant morons who simply cannot understand the most basic science.

    Tennessee lawmakers look to ban geoengineering; Critics argue bill ‘based on conspiracy theories’
     
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    Wow....someone went full on with the "Drink Me" potion I see. Any how, back in the real world, none of that non-sense actually exists. Just like our newly banned Chemtrails and weather modification chemicals, or Dems drinking the blood of children in pizza restaurant or stolen elections or made up viruses.
     
  8. homer

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    Do you live in Tennessee?

    If not, why do you care what they do?
     
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  10. phatGator

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    What is your source for this? According to the website of the Tennessee General Assembly, the following was the original language of the bill:

    “BE IT ENACTED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF TENNESSEE:
    SECTION 1. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 68-201-105(d)(1), is amended by deleting "one hundred eighty (180)" and substituting "one hundred fifty (150)".

    SECTION 2. This act takes effect July 1, 2024, the public welfare requiring it.”

    The bill was referred to the Senate Energy, Agriculture, and Natural Resources Committee. The bill was amended to include the prohibition of releasing chemicals into the atmosphere for the purposes of modifying the environment.

    The Senate adopted Amendment 1, SA0653. The Senate then passed bill SB2691, as amended, 25 to 6.

    What do you consider the original “insane” language to have been when the bill was passed? That’s why I would like to see the source of your statements. It seems to me that what you describe does not follow parliamentary procedure. How is language added to a Senate bill after the bill has already passed? Your second article does not address this.
     
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  11. Gatorrick22

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    EDITED: I'll bet real money that many of these negative posters never took one clot shot and risked their lives for this dangerous vaccine.
     
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    You're correct. I've had 5. The vaccine is only dangerous in your alternate universe.
     
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    Why did you open and post in the thread?
     
  14. rivergator

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    The Pennsylvania state senator proposing the bill there has made it quite clear that he thinks chemtrails are being released now.

    https://penncapital-star.com/energy...ted-in-conspiracy-theory-and-climate-science/
     
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    Harsh take for someone who reads the bill as "seek[ing] to ban physics." One of the problems with discussing politics in this country is when we have the tendency to exaggerate where it just isn't necessary. The bill seems silly on its surface without the need to exaggerate or misrepresent. Nevermind whether or not one believes in chemtrails past, present, or future. How much energy/effort would be spent on testing air samples and chasing down sources for discovered anomalies?

    Go GATORS!
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  16. WESGATORS

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    I mean, who doesn't love a good state joke?

    Go GATORS!
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  17. homer

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    Curiosity.

    What they are doing doesn’t get me all contorted.
     
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    Looks like the chemtrail mind control is working
     
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  19. homer

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    Ok. Lol
     
  20. phatGator

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    I’m not going to defend whackadoodle statements from anybody. I’ve already stated that I do not believe chemtrail conspiracies. It’s interesting that in the article you referenced it also says this:

    “Mastriano notes the Pennsylvania Constitution guarantees the ‘right to clean air, pure water, and to the preservation of the natural, scenic, historic and esthetic values of the environment.’

    ‘Spraying unknown, experimental, and potentially dangerous chemicals into the atmosphere without the consent of the people of Pennsylvania is a clear violation of Article 1, Section 27 of the PA Constitution,’ Mastriano’s memo states.”

    That’s a statement any liberal environmentalist could make. So it brings up an interesting issue. Can someone do the right thing for the wrong reasons?

    Let me ask you this. Do you support releasing chemicals into the atmosphere to alter the weather?