Tekle Sundberg Victim Confronts Ralliers and Marchers

What we know is that he fired his gun in his own apartment, with at least one bullet going through the wall into the woman's apartment next door. We also know that he fired the weapon again when the police were evacuating people. You immediately assume he was trying to kill people.

My opinion is that if his goal was to kill people, he would have left his apartment and shot people in the complex before the police ever showed up. You jump to the conclusions you need to feel good about this guy being dead. Me? I think we have a mentally ill person, don't know what he was thinking, and I don't see the evidence at this time to conclude that his goal was to kill other people.

 

Yeah. You just threw out a lot of explanations that danced around this guy's actions and generalized all police killings right after you said you wouldn't. I have no record either but if I kept shooting at cops after several attempts at de escalation I'd get killed too. I'm not any more special than a cop who wants to go home to their family.

 

Because you do it over and over. This is probably the third time you’ve done it. You try to shame “moderates” who don’t subscribe to your one sided zealotry by parroting that Dr King quote. The fact that you keep doing it means you can’t debate the issue on its merits, you think you can shame people into conformance.

 

When you are getting shot at, you don’t have time to debate the shooters intent. The woman had bullet holes in her apartment with kids and they were hot at again when leaving.

Once again you pull out bullshit arguments that I want to feel good at this guys death. Listen dumbshit I have a autistic son and a bipolar daughter who is now at a mental health rehab facility. I feel for those parents who adopted the kid from overseas and tried to make his life better. But it is hard. Our society is just not equipped to deal with mentally ill people. There is nowhere for them to go. Ive called cops numerous times to have her put in a facility. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t.

There is so much wrong here. Why can someone like that get a gun? Why do we have so many guns that people like that can get them? Why can’t severely mentally Ill people get help? It is a shit show all around. I have no problem with how the parents feel but BLM doesn’t need to be there.

 

I quote from Dr. King because it resonates with me. If you feel ashamed from it, that's a you problem.

Maybe you would. Maybe you wouldn't. Regardless, we haven't reckoned with our policing problems in this country or attempted meaningful reform. Why shouldn't people protest when we refuse to do anything about the problem? Maybe we couldn't have saved this young man no matter what we did. But until we try to do things differently, we won't know the answer to that question. As long as we continue doing the same things we've been doing, I'll continue supporting BLM protesting when it results in a person's death.

 

No it just shows you are a self righteous Xxxxx who in spite of being an attorney really struggles to form a coherent argument based upon facts and logic. I suspect Dr King would have no use for you.

 

Our society is equipped to deal with mentally ill people. We simply don't care enough to expend the resources on them. And we don't care enough to reform our police practices so that we are better able to interact with the mentally ill when they must encounter law enforcement. That's the sad reality. It's not a lack of resources. It's a lack of moral consciousness.

Why could he get a gun? Because Minnesota doesn't have red flag laws. Guess which party refused to pass them? Why is it so easy for people to get their hands on guns? You know the answer to that too.
Minnesota House passes gun background check, 'red flag' bills

 

Here we go. Innuendo and character attacks. You got me. I'm so ashamed. Wtvr. I'll still agree with many of your takes but you're way out there on this one. Have a good night.

 

I may well be self righteous, but my explanation here is quite coherent. You simply don't like what I'm telling you and don't want to reckon with it for that reason. I suspect you don't know much about Dr. King if you think he'd be against BLM. “Armies of officials are clothed in uniform, invested with authority, armed with the instruments of violence and death and conditioned to believe that they can intimidate, maim or kill Negroes with the same recklessness that once motivated the slaveowner.” Guess whose words those were?

 

On these issues I agree with you. When I say we aren’t equipped, we literally aren’t. Could we do better if we prioritized it, sure, but we don’t.

It is hard to blame cops when we leave it to them to deal with this. There are numerous instances where cops have been abusive or even killed mentally ill people when they had no need to. But when you have a shooter who has shot at people really all options are off the table. You just aren’t going to send a social worker at somebody who is armed and shooting at people. That will never, ever happen. As long as he is armed, he is a target.

 

That first part of the response wasn't to you. Look who I quoted.

 

I largely agree with the bolded statement, which is why police reform is necessary. Consider that as part of the protest here.

 

I want to thank the BLM folks who are protesting the Tekel Sundberg shooting......

Thank you for showing us that you don't care about any innocent lives, thank you for showing us that you don't give a rats ass about the poor children who were traumatized in that shot up apartment. Thank you for showing us that you are going to stand up for any black criminal regardless of the situation. Thank you for proving you just exist to try to get people riled up.
Thank you for standing up for evil and showing your true colors.

 

BLM, the police force, the Supreme Court, politicians...all laughingstocks. America in 2022, baby!

 

Can we agree that this situation would have had an easier outcome if he didn’t have a gun. I don’t know how to do it but gun owners should figure it out before a majority start supporting an all out ban on guns.

 

Not always. Sometimes you win some money. I know of one were a guy shot at the police and still won a 1.5 million dollar lawsuit. Been debating on making a thread for it. The police behavior is pretty disgusting.