Teachers in Fl can lose their license...

That's good to know. We shouldn't question each other's love of our country, though we may disagree what's best for it.

 

Despite no evidence of it being taught anywhere. Seems more like he wanted to hook up a donor with lucrative textbook deals while he played easy marks for fools.

 

No I don't actually believe that...

But you probably believe the Affordable Care Act has Obamacare in it.

See how that works?

 

Its funny that getting a check for private healthcare makes it government run, but getting a check for private school tuition means its free of government

 

I get the personal views of the teacher part. I also get the socialization aspect of being around other kids. That's very important. I was talking about the academic concerns that parents understandably expressed about their kids falling behind in math and reading and about how future test scores might be impacted. If you did not have any academic concerns, then you're right that you do not fit into the group I was talking about. Though I do wonder how you wouldn't have academic concerns about schools shutting down unless you think your kids' teachers are essentially babysitters.

 

Yes, learning in a classroom has that advantage too. I agree...

 

There are certain some secular pro lifers. But I think the energy comes from the religious right, and at least in my mind, the logic of supremecy of a non thinking, non conscious peanut size fetus over the ability of a woman to control her own body is one of faith - in believing that fetus has special status - endeared by diety. But that’s just the way I see it.

As to the anti trans thing, it’s a mixed bag. Sure the religious right are going to do their thing. But there is also a bigotry aspect to it that may have little to do with it - people fearing these people are going to make their kids gay, trans, etc. But I think there are also people are probably fine with people who are gay but may have reservations on the whole trans thing. I could be an example of this group. I have nothing against trans people, but kind of worry about the social contagion aspect to impressionable youth, especially those who have a string of mental illness. There are lifelong physical consequences to actual transitions.

The sports thing is just a different issue to me.

 

Well, I looked it up and my daughters school’s faculty has 80% with advanced degrees. Fwiw.

 

That should be bad from your perspective. Check out the political preferences of people with advanced degrees. Get her out of there stat, she's being indoctrinated!

 

That's not the norm and advanced degrees are prevalent in public schools as well. Private school quality varies as much as public schools.

 

agreed. In fact it was actually stimulating to debate real world issues at that age. The anti public school thing is a minority held opinion but not for me or my family.

 

That is true. The problem for public schools are many. First they deal with the public. The loudest parents are typically the worst families and this is probably why discipline is a thing of the past. Admin caves to these people to keep them happy.
Also, the children who attend private schools are likely more interested in attending college. Learning tends to occur at a higher rate when the classroom is filled with higher caliber students.
In public schools, AP and honors classes could be taught by chimps for this reason.

 

While I know people have always had diversity of opinions, I wonder if it was always so “out there”, such that these opinions and views are so instrumental to who they are. I keep going back to a recent vacation with MAGA “friends” that while it had good moments overall I look back on as unbearable.

 

Yeah, I think that's a fair distinction, and I suppose I conflated the gay and trans issues a bit. I have a family member who is Christian but not overtly religious. He has gay friends and doesn't care about homosexuality. He's a registered Republican but pretty socially liberal. But he gets fired up about transgender issues, and that's one of the few things we really argue about. I've even conceded the point about sports, but it still really bothers him in general. Like he thinks it's all absurd. He doesn't understand why I want to defend trans folks, and I tell him that I don't understand why he cares so much about not accepting them and whether he denies that gender dysphoria is real. I think he's not unique there. Heck, I know two gay guys who have told me that they don't understand the trans movement at all. One seemed to think it's gross, and the other was asking me to explain various terms to him, lol.